Balder
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Post by Balder on May 1, 2017 5:11:02 GMT
It's a lot of fuck you for doing drawing videos and fuck you because the reviews aren't how they used to be. Oh. That sucks. :/ I wonder why they don't like the new reviews? IMO they haven't gone downhill or anything. I guess people are angry about him going to Patreon. And that hate just smears over everything.
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Spirit Bomb
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Post by Spirit Bomb on May 1, 2017 5:15:56 GMT
Oh. That sucks. :/ I wonder why they don't like the new reviews? IMO they haven't gone downhill or anything. I guess people are angry about him going to Patreon. And that hate just smears over everything. But aren't his game reviews still being posted on Youtube? I could've sworn I saw a bunch of uploads the last time I visited his channel.
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Post by Cervantes on May 1, 2017 5:50:53 GMT
I guess people are angry about him going to Patreon. And that hate just smears over everything. But aren't his game reviews still being posted on Youtube? I could've sworn I saw a bunch of uploads the last time I visited his channel. Yes, they are. People just like to complain, it seems. I seriously don't understand youtube comments. That said, Mark's latest reviews have actually been really professional with all the different camera angles and means to capture footage (direct feed and by filming the CRT tv directly from multiple angles). It would even be comprehensible if he had made lower quality videos this month or less videos, as he was doing a lot of work shipping the MUSHA dvds and publishing the books - and yet, the videos have been really good and at the same frequency as always.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 1, 2017 6:07:33 GMT
I guess people are angry about him going to Patreon. And that hate just smears over everything. But aren't his game reviews still being posted on Youtube? I could've sworn I saw a bunch of uploads the last time I visited his channel. I think you misunderstood what I meant. What I meant was that he uses Patreon and has some exclusive content there (like the podcast), and people don't like that.
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Post by Dan E. Kool on May 1, 2017 7:48:39 GMT
Yes, they are. People just like to complain, it seems. I seriously don't understand youtube comments. Life is more enjoyable when you don't scroll down.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 1, 2017 8:01:40 GMT
Yes, they are. People just like to complain, it seems. I seriously don't understand youtube comments. Life is more enjoyable when you don't scroll down. But I'm wondering, have they always been that bad? I seem to remember they not being this bad.
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Post by Dan E. Kool on May 1, 2017 16:42:03 GMT
Life is more enjoyable when you don't scroll down. Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla See what I mean?
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 1, 2017 16:53:53 GMT
Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla See what I mean? Back in 2007 they weren't this cancerous.
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Post by Llloyd Bridges on May 1, 2017 17:20:11 GMT
They were always shit. If anything, they've gotten better.
You put yourself out there, you talk about something with mass appeal like video games, then you show a lot of really obscure stuff like Magnum PI 9000 computer game from 40 years ago, you're gonna get a lot of negativity. Is the rudeness necessary? No. But it's no skin off somebody's butt to leave a really unnecessary and rude comment and ruin someone's day.
Mark is getting some of the heat Derek and TJ got. Some of it is out of line and some of it is constructive.
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on May 1, 2017 17:56:23 GMT
Back in 2007 they weren't this cancerous. I also remember they not being this bad until a few years ago. Before the Wind Squid Pub existed, I clearly remember thinking that CGR's videos had some of the best youtube communities around them, with most comments being supportive or even informative. You can still see those comments when you look for older videos. The community was so good that it was the main interaction Mark had with his audience for a long time, at least until he went to Vimeo and retooled the CGR website, creating the pub. But I think the change is not on CGR, it's just the result of changes on Youtube itself. We are only now seeing the results of all the policy changes and the promotion of the lower-denominator channels: who looks for video game reviews on Youtube nowadays is not the same kind of people from four, five years ago, before all those "camera at a screaming teenager's face" became the standard. While the older audience didn't "leave" Youtube, it found other ways to share comments/opinions, like on forums (hey mates!), Twitter, Patreon comments (as most of the highly elaborate shows are on Patreon nowadays) or Twitch streamings. I remember I used to comment on CGR videos on Youtube, but haven't done so ever since we have this pub, and I guess this is also true for most of you. We can also take into account that some people did get pissed off at CGR while Mark was testing waters with the Patreon model, especially when the free videos became only teasers for the full ones (this was only for two weeks or so, but had a huge backlash) and when he experimented with lower quality content like WhoDefeatz and unboxing videos. None of this justifies the vile comments, though, especially since Mark has been steadily outputting quality reviews for several months by now with no WhoDefeatz videos in sight.
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Post by dschult3 on May 1, 2017 21:39:37 GMT
Yes, they are. People just like to complain, it seems. I seriously don't understand youtube comments. Life is more enjoyable when you don't scroll down. Sometimes I scroll down just for the hell of it. You Tube arguments are some of the worst I have seen in my life. Even AOL chat rooms had better conversations in the 1990s.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 1, 2017 21:45:56 GMT
Life is more enjoyable when you don't scroll down. Sometimes I scroll down just for the hell of it. You Tube arguments are some of the worst I have seen in my life. Even AOL chat rooms had better conversations in the 1990s. It's become a parody of itself, but the thing is, when you parody something for long enough, you eventually become that thing. Now it's just a wasteland of arguments and memes.
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Post by Dan E. Kool on May 2, 2017 7:50:02 GMT
Cervantes Do you think the decline in good YT comments is what's bumming Mark out the most?
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 2, 2017 8:50:36 GMT
Cervantes Do you think the decline in good YT comments is what's bumming Mark out the most? I think it's the decline in Patreon backers. He also stated that he lost 10 backers last time he uploaded a review, which he was really bummed out about.
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Post by Cervantes on May 2, 2017 17:12:57 GMT
Cervantes Do you think the decline in good YT comments is what's bumming Mark out the most? I think it's the decline in Patreon backers. He also stated that he lost 10 backers last time he uploaded a review, which he was really bummed out about. It's what I think. CGR is losing some backers every month, around 15 this time. For some months, it has been below what Mark initially considered as enough to keep the show as a full job when he started the campaign, so that must be frustrating. I talked about the YT comments situation in response to Spirit Bomb and Balder - though it's obviously another thing that may be bothering Mark, as he sometimes mentions how terrible the Youtube community has been lately (he also mentioned it in the podcast with Pat Contri).
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