lukefonfabre388
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Post by lukefonfabre388 on Jun 17, 2017 23:11:22 GMT
Just on how fucked up the ps4 and Xbox one have become. Not only are consoles trying so hard to be like PC but they offer none of the advantages that PC brings to the table. Every freaking console game nowadays needs a patch to run the game, dlc to make it complete, and all the updates to download to make a game even more complete.
So many different versions of today's consoles. ps4: ps4 original, ps4 slim, ps4 pro Xbox: Xbox one original, Xbox one S, Xbox one X Now I know this has always been done but seriously why so many different versions? Usually you bought 1 console and it lasted you throughout the entire gen. Now you buy one and its obsolete within a couple years because a new model comes out that's better. Also not to mention to even use today's consoles to there fullest you have to buy a stupid 4k TV in order to use it. They keep increasing the power of today's systems by coming out with new models that run better. Is it because consoles cant keep up with today's technology and its rapid changes?
I cant believe how much money console gamers spend on today's consoles. The ps4 and Xbox one will never have collectible games and the systems will never be worth a damn thing. All that money could have been spent on building a console killer PC and getting a better gaming experience. It's not even that hard to build your own PC.
The 8th gen consoles are literally the reason why I switched to PC. I would never go back to today's consoles at all. I'd take today's handhelds over them any day along with PC.
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dschult3
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Post by dschult3 on Jun 17, 2017 23:27:41 GMT
I agree with you about the stupidity of it all. What set you off today?
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lukefonfabre388
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Post by lukefonfabre388 on Jun 17, 2017 23:53:01 GMT
When I used to console game I bought 1 system and it lasted me throughout the entire gen. Now I cant even have 1 system last me throughout the gen anymore because a certain model is more powerful then the last. Seriously its just stupid all of it is. Why is the 8th starting more bad trends? Next thing you know they will come out with ps5 or another model of the ps4 and Xbox one that's more powerful then the last.
All this has needed to be said.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Jun 18, 2017 1:56:16 GMT
People quickly forget how short console generations used to be. Xbox lasted from 2001-2005 (4 years). PS1 was 1995-2000 (5 years). Xbox One came out in 2013 and is still going. So don't blame the duration just yet. Anyways, I hate incremental updates like this too. Maybe not that much as you, but it's stupid for sure. Just hate it for the right reasons.
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fsfsxii
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Post by fsfsxii on Jun 18, 2017 6:18:29 GMT
Meh, nintendo did it first with New 3DS, and that was just a garbage system spec wise (240p in this day and age), yet it still cost 200$ iirc. As for the weak consoles, you can blame the 7th generation for their bleeding edge technology when they came out, its the reason 7th gen was took so long. In this day and age, technology is advancing at a fast rate, just look at the smart phone industry and how much that has advanced in the past 5 years alone.
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Jun 18, 2017 15:16:47 GMT
I blame the iPhone.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Jun 18, 2017 16:28:52 GMT
People who buy every generation of the iPhone have too much money to spend.
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dschult3
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Post by dschult3 on Jun 18, 2017 16:33:49 GMT
Meh, nintendo did it first with New 3DS, and that was just a garbage system spec wise (240p in this day and age), yet it still cost 200$ iirc. As for the weak consoles, you can blame the 7th generation for their bleeding edge technology when they came out, its the reason 7th gen was took so long. In this day and age, technology is advancing at a fast rate, just look at the smart phone industry and how much that has advanced in the past 5 years alone. You can make the argument that the 1st gen had multiple updates with the Pong controls. You can also make the argument that this is reminiscent of the add on updates for game systems which tried to pretend to be computer systems. (i.e. the ADAM computer or the Vic 20 which needed huge RAM expansions to play games) Of course, I don't need to talk about the Sega Life Support system of the Genesis/Mega Drive days around this forum. To tell you the truth, I'm a bit surprised that these "updates" haven't occurred during the last few generational cycles.
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stratogustav
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Post by stratogustav on Jun 18, 2017 17:29:44 GMT
Honestly people can see 144 frames per second. This whole idea that we can't perceive pass 60 is a lie, you can definitely tell the difference if you get used to it.
Also for VR stuff we are still at PS2 levels at the most. We can't yet make VR titles to look on par with modern games, the closest was RE7.
VR requires a lot of smoothness and resolution to become immersive. It is the one thing that shows how much more improvement still needs to be done.
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fsfsxii
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Post by fsfsxii on Jun 18, 2017 18:34:50 GMT
Meh, nintendo did it first with New 3DS, and that was just a garbage system spec wise (240p in this day and age), yet it still cost 200$ iirc. As for the weak consoles, you can blame the 7th generation for their bleeding edge technology when they came out, its the reason 7th gen was took so long. In this day and age, technology is advancing at a fast rate, just look at the smart phone industry and how much that has advanced in the past 5 years alone. You can make the argument that the 1st gen had multiple updates with the Pong controls. You can also make the argument that this is reminiscent of the add on updates for game systems which tried to pretend to be computer systems. (i.e. the ADAM computer or the Vic 20 which needed huge RAM expansions to play games) Of course, I don't need to talk about the Sega Life Support system of the Genesis/Mega Drive days around this forum. To tell you the truth, I'm a bit surprised that these "updates" haven't occurred during the last few generational cycles. Personally, i don't think the gaming population can accept the incremental updates thingy, first off, because its a hobby, not a necessity, which is something the phone industry can get away with, 2nd of all, there aren't that many gamers to begin with. Look at the hardware numbers from the past generation(s), then look at the software numbers, then look at the highest selling games. Clearly, there is barely any software attachment, and hardcore gamers don't make a respectable number.
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fsfsxii
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Post by fsfsxii on Jun 18, 2017 18:38:03 GMT
People who buy every generation of the iPhone have too much money to spend. The last phone i bought was a Galaxy S Advance, it was my first and that was 5 years ago or was it 4? dunno. It died about 4 months ago, i immediately went out and bought a Sony Xperia XA for about 200$, which is a lot for someone like myself, then i compared the software features to my sister's iPhone 7, there is not much difference, as most people use their smartphone for texting, so it baffles me why someone would pay 1000$ for a phone only to text. Hardware wise, the most notable thing for most people is the camera, and thats about it.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Jun 18, 2017 18:48:53 GMT
People who buy every generation of the iPhone have too much money to spend. The last phone i bought was a Galaxy S Advance, it was my first and that was 5 years ago or was it 4? dunno. It died about 4 months ago, i immediately went out and bought a Sony Xperia XA for about 200$, which is a lot for someone like myself, then i compared the software features to my sister's iPhone 7, there is not much difference, as most people use their smartphone for texting, so it baffles me why someone would pay 1000$ for a phone only to text. Hardware wise, the most notable thing for most people is the camera, and thats about it. The truth about phones.
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Dan E. Kool
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Jun 18, 2017 19:44:29 GMT
Hardware wise, the most notable thing for most people is the camera, and thats about it. The extra horsepower is what helps me set those Candy Crush high scores.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Jun 18, 2017 19:48:19 GMT
Hardware wise, the most notable thing for most people is the camera, and thats about it. The extra horsepower is what helps me set those Candy Crush high scores. Still waiting for that world record screenshot of yours.
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Jun 18, 2017 19:49:07 GMT
The extra horsepower is what helps me set those Candy Crush high scores. Still waiting for that world record screenshot of yours. You mean the ones I already posted?
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