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Post by Dan E. Moderator on Oct 8, 2017 7:56:59 GMT
Time to get into that Halloween spirit! If you have any spooky suggestions, send them my way. This Week: Psycho IIChosen by: Cervantes Released: 1983 Starring: Anthony Perkins, Vera Miles, Meg Tilly, Robert Loggia Director: Richard Franklin Producer: Hilton A Green Writer: Tom Holland
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Post by stratogustav on Oct 8, 2017 20:43:17 GMT
I feel that these threads are two per weekly, I always end up with at least two new movies before the week ends.
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Post by Balder on Oct 9, 2017 6:40:50 GMT
Why the fuck does there exist a Psycho sequel? Is it any good at all?
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Post by dschult3 on Oct 9, 2017 15:12:51 GMT
I really was not a fan of this one. It doesn't need to exist.
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Post by Cervantes on Oct 9, 2017 17:51:18 GMT
Why the fuck does there exist a Psycho sequel? Is it any good at all? Surprisingly, it not only does exist, it's a fucking GREAT movie. This movie had no right to be as good as it turned out to be. It's a sequel to the most well known Hitchcock classic, and yet, it not only lives up to the original, it may even be (I really dare to say it) as good or even, in some ways, BETTER than the first one. Even its twists are good and get even better on a second watch! Seriously. I just rewatched all the Psycho movies last month (and the Bates Motel series), and I stand by this: this movie is worth every damn second of it. It's all about paranoia: Norman is trying really hard to be sane, but a lot of strange things keep happening around him and he doesn't know if it's his mind slipping again or someone messing with him, and in the movie this is done in a way that we also don't know who to trust. Anthony Perkins is as good as ever as Norman; he's even more sympathetic than in the first movie, since you get the impression that he legitimately regrets the previous killings. And his very slow descent into paranoia and madness is very well written and, most importantly, acted. I think the only reason why it can't be better than Hitchcock's Psycho is because, well, Hitchcock "did it first". But if you don't take novelty into consideration and just look at both movies by the quality of the story and acting, they're on par with each other (though the first one has better cinematography and music). That's why I chose this one to discuss: it's one of the best horror sequels that I know of (Aliens doesn't count because it became an action movie!), and almost no one knows about it. I thought it was going to be a shitty made-for-tv sequel to a classic, but, after seeing it last year (and rewatching last month), I do recommend that everyone watches Psycho 1&2 back to back. I just can't praise it enough. On the other had, 3 and 4 are bad. I mean, 3 is still an ok slasher and Perkins saves it from being terrible, but 4 was a totally unnecessary made-for-tv origins movie. The 1998 remake is the worst idea ever. The Bates Motel series begins very shitty, but the later seasons are ok. So, if you ask me, the only Psycho-related things everyone should watch are Psycho 1&2, and only see the others if you're really curious.
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Post by Balder on Oct 9, 2017 19:59:48 GMT
There's a 3rd and 4th movie, as well as a series too? What the hell man... I don't see how they can go on from the first one, let alone 3 times and a series.
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Post by Cervantes on Oct 9, 2017 20:56:56 GMT
Yep. Four movies, a remake, a series and a very obscure failed pilot for another series.
Also, the Hitchcock movie was based on a book; that one got its own sequel, unrelated to the second movie.
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Oct 9, 2017 21:19:25 GMT
I don't know what it is about that trailer, but it had me cracking up. Something about the line delivery. I know that Perkins isn't a bad actor, but what can I say. The idea of an 80s-ified Psycho looks like it could be fun. I'll try to watch this one this week to give you my thoughts on how it adds up.
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Oct 14, 2017 21:42:43 GMT
So I watched the movie as promised. And you know what, I'm glad I did. Thanks, Cervantes ! This isn't a movie I would have watched otherwise. I never watched Psycho and thought, Gee, I wonder what happened next? But that's exactly what this is. We start off 20 years after Norman Bates was sentenced and now he's been freed. It's kinda neat that the film takes place the same time after as is being filmed. That they got the original cast back is even better. Norman is trying to rebuild his life. Unfortunately, he's trying to do it in his old hometown, by living in his old motel. There's a bit of suspension of disbelief, especially in the beginning as the townsfolk welcome him back pretty friendly-like, but it's never silly (as I had hoped for after watching the trailer). There's a nice twist as the story progresses that I didn't see coming. The ending was meh. Obviously this isn't as good as Hitchcock's masterpiece, but it's a valiant effort and I enjoyed it. An upside to going into a sequel like this is that your expectations are low, so I guess it isn't hard to come out of it pleased. This is a movie that could have been way worse than it is. Does it need to exist? No, but it still feels like it could exist in the universe of the original. It stayed true to the tone of Psycho and there's some good suspense here. I would watch it again, but unlike the original, this is more of a movie that I'd watch if it happened to be on TV than I'd probably run out and buy on Bluray. 4/5 from me.
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Post by Cervantes on Oct 15, 2017 0:10:13 GMT
See? Told you. How the hell could they manage making a good movie out of this? I'll never know. I actually like the ending, and by that I mean the very last seconds. It's properly haunting.
I won't defend Psycho 3 or 4 though. As a bit of trivia, 3 was directed by Perkins himself.
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Oct 15, 2017 8:17:02 GMT
See? Told you. How the hell could they manage making a good movie out of this? I'll never know. It's definitely better than just about any other remake/reboot/delayed sequel I've seen. It stays as true to the original as it can. And when you think about how much horror movies had changed from the first Psycho to the early 80s, I respect the fact that they didn't follow the trends and kept Psycho Psycho.
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Post by Balder on Oct 15, 2017 10:21:43 GMT
See? Told you. How the hell could they manage making a good movie out of this? I'll never know. It's definitely better than just about any other remake/reboot/delayed sequel I've seen. It stays as true to the original as it can. And when you think about how much horror movies had changed from the first Psycho to the early 80s, I respect the fact that they didn't follow the trends and kept Psycho Psycho. Blade Runner 2049
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Oct 15, 2017 15:05:57 GMT
It's definitely better than just about any other remake/reboot/delayed sequel I've seen. It stays as true to the original as it can. And when you think about how much horror movies had changed from the first Psycho to the early 80s, I respect the fact that they didn't follow the trends and kept Psycho Psycho. Blade Runner 2049 I knew you'd say that.
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Post by Balder on May 22, 2019 16:48:18 GMT
Damn Cervantes , you were totally right dude. This movie rules. I found it on Netflix Canada. ""Why the fuck does there exist a Psycho sequel?" was what I said when I first learned that this thing existed. Honestly what is the point? The original Psycho did not need a sequel, and after more than 20 years comes a sequel with the original actor, and it is actually good. Good does not even describe it well, it is fantastic, and dare I say it is just as good as the original? It might not be as groundbreaking as the original, but in the same vein as Aliens was to Alien, this is the perfect sequel. It is made with love, care and the utmost respect. It even feels like a Hitchcock film to me at times. It is essentially a hybrid between the original Psycho and Vertigo if that makes that any sense. Anthony Perkins is amazing in this. His acting carries a lot of the film, and the film strengthens his performance by actually exploring his character in meaningful ways. It is the perfect way of continuing the story. The story is great in that I always have to second guess everything. It keeps me guessing right up until the end. The ending is particularly great I think. It wraps everything up so nicely and it is chilling as fuck. The perfect way to end it. I would never have watched this unless it was recommended to me, and despite people telling me it was good, I did not fully believe it until I watched it. Impressive I must say. One of those super rare moments where a delayed sequel impresses." 4.5/5
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Post by Cervantes on May 22, 2019 19:58:24 GMT
Balder - Now stop before you get to the third and fourth movies! (They suck.)
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