Balder
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Post by Balder on Nov 6, 2018 8:33:52 GMT
This week: BioShock Chosen by: CervantesYear: 2007 Developer: 2K Games Publisher: Take-Two Interactive Platforms: Xbox 360, PS3, PC Next: Balder |
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Post by ModeratorNumber2 on Nov 6, 2018 8:35:49 GMT
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on Nov 6, 2018 10:53:05 GMT
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on Nov 6, 2018 10:55:00 GMT
Visually stunning, great story (Ayn Rand paranoia is a bit much, though). This is one of those games you occasionally stop and just look around to observe the scenery.
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Post by stratogustav on Nov 6, 2018 19:01:52 GMT
This looks like it would be a great VR game. It has a good reputation, so it is not too wild to think a VR port could come out some day. If it does I'll definitely try it. It looks promising. I'm interested on the whole Atlas Shrugged, and The Fountainhead, themes.
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Nov 7, 2018 1:52:49 GMT
Never got around to playing it. Ken Levine & his team overhyped the fuck out of Bioshock 1 with that incredible teaser ages ago. I still remember being absolutely blown away seeing it for the first time on Youtube: It looked like it would be the most shocking and original survival horror game in ages. ....then the game came out and it turned out to be just a straightforward action-exploration FPS with little to no survival horror elements at all.  I wasn't disappointed by the supposedly streamlined RPG mechanics since, as I said in another thread, I hadn't played or even heard of System Shock 2 before Bioshock came out, so I wasn't expecting them to be in Bioshock. The story and atmosphere were interesting, but since I was mostly interested in the strong horror aspect of the teaser trailer, the former aspects just weren't enough to sell the game for me, so I passed Bioshock and all of its sequels up. I've been considering buying it on GOG.com for a while now, since the level of interactivity with the physics system seems like it would be enjoyable, but I probably won't get it unless it's on sale. I hear the physical PC release is unplayable now due to having GFWL (Games for Windows Live), so I'll steer clear of that version. |
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Nov 7, 2018 6:14:45 GMT
I thought it was a huge disappointment. It does look great and its visuals are haunting and beautiful, but the gameplay itself is very dull: the same bullet sponge enemies over and over with little development in the AI department and a level-design that is just so uncreative - the scenery looks nice, yes, but it's not great as something to explore/fight. Also, while the themes are creative, the story itself is told almost entirely in the very standard "implausible logs" that were already overused in the late 90s... The few rpg elements are too shallow and the "moral" system is outright stupid.
It might seem that I'm being too harsh on the game, but my real problem with it is just with how average the entire experience actually is - under the unusual theme and setting, and the good visuals, there's not much else. That's why I rate it a 3.
To add insult to the injury, a few years after playing it I played System Shock 2. And just wow. It has a meaningful RPG system, with classes and abilities that completely change the way you play the game, force you to make actual choices and is great for replays, a level-design that had some thought behind it and makes for creative and terrifying enemy encounters, a more balanced mix between being a FPS and a survival horror, a story that doesn't just rely on logs (even though they were still not beaten to death at the time of its release) and, worst of all, I recognized every single aspect of Bioshock already done better in it.
So, if you all want to experience a great game that delivers the hype behind Bioshock, go for its predecessor, it still holds up pretty well. Or, if you want a modern game in a setting similar to Bioshock but with a gameplay focused on the horror part, please play SOMA. Done by the Penumbra/Amnesia developers, it has a very interesting story that is much better told.
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Post by leaon79s on Nov 8, 2018 5:09:28 GMT
Have to confess I never really played much of this game either. I played Bioshock Infinite, then both its DLCs - the second of which was a direct prequel to this first Bioshock (all of which were OK, but not great...)Since the PS3 version of Infinite included the first Bioshock as a bonus, I thought to give it a go. And I did... but it couldn't hold my interest. I don't knoe why, but there was just something unsettling about it. Where as in Infinite you had the sprawling air-borne wonderland that was Columbia, in its place you now had this claustrophobic mad house... I'unnow, maybe that was the point, but it just never clicked with me for some reason, despite Rapture's evidently inspired realization. To this day I still debate on whether or not giving it another chance (with the oft-sale PS4 compilation) is worth it... Cervantes , I find it very difficult to get into Soma either... strange-as under the sea walking sim that it is... At least Dear Esther had nice scenery... Maybe I just haven't gotten to the good part yet...  |
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Nov 8, 2018 5:54:32 GMT
Finally someone who agrees with me, Cervantes. I couldn't for the life of me understand why this was supposed to be so good. It really boring to me. Never finished any of them. |
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Post by winnersdontusedrugs on Nov 8, 2018 15:58:41 GMT
I like Bioshock, but after playing it through multiple times I've realized it doesn't have anywhere near the replay value of SS2. You can invest adam in all sorts of different powers, but I never really felt the desire to go outside the same stuff I used since my first playthrough. I think the problem is that, on top of alot of the Plasmid powers being pretty lame, there's really no incentive to play as anything other than some Marine-O.S.A hybrid (by SS2 standards). There's no need to invest much into things like hacking, and weapons and plasmids don't have any stat prerequisites. It seems like the only real choice is whether you want plasmid power A or plasmid power B.
I think this game has some good things going for it though. Aside from the great story and atmosphere which has been mentioned already, the game lets you set traps and fuck with your enemies in a few interesting ways. While the game may steer you into the marine role, the combat at least is good, if not a little repetitive at times. There's a great sense of power and impact for each of the guns, and you can now use psychic powers in conjunction with your weaponry unlike SS2, removing the need to swap back and forth. There's also a few cool ways to use plasmids outside of the typical methods, such as shooting lightning at water, fire at gasoline, freezing enemies, etc.
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Nov 8, 2018 17:41:48 GMT
By the way, I've heard the newest Prey is a really good successor to SS2 and more deep/complex than Bioshock.
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