Balder
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Post by Balder on Jun 14, 2019 19:10:00 GMT
This week: The Legend of Zelda Chosen by: Spirit BombYear: 1986 Developer: Nintendo Publisher: Nintendo Platforms: Famicom, NES Next: Who knows
Sorry for the very late post, but it's either a late post or no post at all.
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Post by ModeratorNumber2 on Jun 14, 2019 19:12:34 GMT
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on Jun 14, 2019 22:25:15 GMT
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on Jun 14, 2019 22:25:46 GMT
I was a Sega guy, but this is a damn classic.
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Pimpjira
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Post by Pimpjira on Jun 15, 2019 6:00:07 GMT
I know this was a great influence on gaming and all but I just never got into the original game much.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Jun 15, 2019 7:17:51 GMT
It's one of those games that makes me want to get a Nintendo system, but not enough for me to actually buy one.
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stratogustav
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Post by stratogustav on Jun 15, 2019 14:53:01 GMT
Masterpiece, highly influential to the industry overall, and a big pusher to what we have today in the industry; nonetheless it has some level of plagiarism of Hydlide.
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Spirit Bomb
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Jun 17, 2019 23:39:35 GMT
The Legend of Zelda, like a lot of other early NES Nintendo titles, has aged like week old tapir dung in the steaming hot amazon. The problems I have with the game are numerous, but there are two glaring flaws that make the game a complete waste of my time:
1: The gameplay. I have never like the top-down perspective for 2D games, because ones that use it always play too similarly and too simplistic for my tastes. I mean, the gameplay in the original LoZ is basically on par with navigating the overworld in a fucking Pokemon game. Sound fun? Or challenging? It isn't.
2: The extremely cryptic nature of the puzzles & progression. There is NO WAY anyone would know to bomb a random tree or boulder in one spot of the overworld without a walkthrough to tell us. What makes it worse is that from what I've heard the english translation is partially broken which makes knowing what to do in order to progress to the next dungeon impossible.
I baffles me how seemingly everyone in the game industry still sucks this game's dick. By today's standards it's absolute garbage, and this is coming from someone who grew up with the game on his LoZ Collector's Disc for Gamecube. All the nostalgia in the world couldn't blind me from this game's flaws. It's a total snore fest.
Thank god for Zelda II The Adventure of Link. Unlike the original, Zelda II is still fun to play today and is the best NES Zelda in every respect; greater challenge level, improved gameplay, better visuals, it had everything I look for in a sequel.
As for the original Legend of Zelda, I give it a 1/5. It's a terrible game by today's standards.
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on Jun 18, 2019 1:49:46 GMT
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Post by Imperial Khador on Jun 18, 2019 4:24:29 GMT
Link to the Past was the first Zelda game I'd played to completion, and I think that informs my enjoyment of the series.
I'd played bits and pieces of Zelda 1 and 2 during the NES days, but they never really stuck with me. I loved the artwork in Nintendo Power, and despite the issues in retrospect, I remember really liking the cartoon. I didn't actually finish Zelda 1 until I played it on my 3DS.
Aaaaaand....yeah, it was pretty good. Big open-world feel. I don't know that I'd have enjoyed it as a child, going through it blind and having to bomb every damned surface, try lighting every bush on fire.
Ultimately, I think it is a good NES game, but doesn't hold up well compared to the things that came later. I still think you can do a lot with the basic formula though. I remember really enjoying 3-D Dot Game Heroes for example, and that's both an homage to Zelda 1 and Zelda 3.
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centipede
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Post by centipede on Jun 18, 2019 12:55:06 GMT
I was a Sega guy, but this is a damn classic. Hey, at least we have Golden Axe Warrior.....
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on Jun 18, 2019 23:12:05 GMT
I was a Sega guy, but this is a damn classic. Hey, at least we have Golden Axe Warrior.....
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Jun 28, 2019 5:18:45 GMT
I loved it as a kid and still love it, especially the fact that it's really an open-world were you have to complete it just through exploration: no quests, objective markers, anything. Just pure exploration/discovery.
Some people talk about it being too obtuse, but let me just say that I beat it when I was 9 y.o. and didn't know english (I was literally translating the few phrases in the game word by word with a dictionary), and could still complete it with no guide. Every hint seemed logical to me, even with the misspellings. Also keep in mind that I was a very mediocre player at the time, so the game really isn't hard or obtuse at all - the two quests are perfectly beatable without any guides.
Are there a lot of secrets that you can only discover by burning and exploding every tree or wall in the game? Yes, but all of those are completely optional secrets that only give you extra money. All the dungeons and heart containers are in logical places with clear hints to get them.
Curiously, the first time my cousin showed me A Link to the Past, I immediately thought it was a step down because of how it marked on the map exactly were Link had to go and the map was too detailed. I remember thinking that it was just too easy.
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