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Post by ModeratorNumber2 on Jul 19, 2016 15:06:02 GMT
This week: Assassin's Creed series Choosen by: leaon79s
Year: 2007 (first release) Developer: Ubisoft Montreal Publisher: Ubisoft Platforms: Xbox 360, PS3, PC
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Post by Balder on Jul 19, 2016 15:10:25 GMT
This was one of those game series I never got into. It feels too much like a cash cow for me.
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Post by stratogustav on Jul 19, 2016 15:18:30 GMT
My brother is a super fan, he collects and beats all the games
When it comes to me, I can't deny the medieval premise of the games is great, the maps they make are always awesome, and the style of the characters is cool indeed. It is the gameplay that never attracted me. I don't like hiding, I prefer face to face action.
That's why I thought the trailer for Assassin's Creed III was the best. He straight goes into an entire army to fight them like a badass. If the games were as cool as that trailer, I would also be very into the series.
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Post by Balder on Jul 19, 2016 15:20:09 GMT
Added this to the Community Review list.
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Post by spidershinobi on Jul 19, 2016 18:12:03 GMT
When I give this series a 2/5 rating, please understand that I'm talking about the quality of the series as a whole, not the individual games: I don't believe any of the games is so bad it would deserve less than half the possible rating.
So, I have 3 of the Assassin's Creed games, the ones part of the Americas collection. The 3 of them contain a flawed combat system, almost like an automed combat experience tailored for players' cheap satisfaction; the incredibly annoying tailing missions which are unfortunately frequent throughout the stories; and a well developed stealth mechanism plagued by poorly designed stealth missions. Ubisoft's self insertion in the story as Abstergo might also break any fun one may find in following the BS story going on. Probably the best part of this series being the gimmicks: from being a disguising high society lady in Liberation or a bucaneer in Black Flag, the best of what the series may offer isn't part of its core idea.
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Post by Balder on Jul 20, 2016 0:44:23 GMT
When I give this series a 2/5 rating, please understand that I'm talking about the quality of the series as a whole, not the individual games: I don't believe any of the games is so bad it would deserve less than half the possible rating. So, I have 3 of the Assassin's Creed games, the ones part of the Americas collection. The 3 of them contain a flawed combat system, almost like an automed combat experience tailored for players' cheap satisfaction; the incredibly annoying tailing missions which are unfortunately frequent throughout the stories; and a well developed stealth mechanism plagued by poorly designed stealth missions. Ubisoft's self insertion in the story as Abstergo might also break any fun one may find in following the BS story going on. Probably the best part of this series being the gimmicks: from being a disguising high society lady in Liberation or a bucaneer in Black Flag, the best of what the series may offer isn't part of its core idea. You pretty much described the exact same thing as my friends would who plays these games. It's overdone and it comes out each year (well this year Ubisoft made an exception). The Market is over-saturated.
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Post by scipioafricanus on Jul 20, 2016 10:46:36 GMT
The best thing about the series is the setting of all the games. They all take place in areas of history that aren't looked at in gaming. The Crusades, Renaissance Italy, Colonial America, etc are great places to set a game. Watching the trailer for the first one was amazing when every other game was a shooter in WW2. And then as soon as you do something in the game, boom you are in the present day inside a lab? That part, while understandable for the story (sort of), was disjointing to say the least. Later games would limit that a bit, Ubisoft would learn a bit from the experience. I applaud them for doing something different during a time when a lot of games were the same. Now that being said, a game like this shouldn't be a yearly experience. In a game that could clock in a close tot GTA level of collectibles/stuff to do, that doesn't leave nearly enough time to digest everything. I played 1, 2, 3 and Black Flag. I wanted to play the two sequels to 2, but never got the time.
Overall, they can be incredibly fun (especially Black Flag), but they do have flaws as mentioned above.
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Post by Balder on Jul 20, 2016 22:11:55 GMT
I really liked your positive look on the game scipioafricanus. There have been rumors about that one of these games will be set in the viking era. It would be cool to see that.
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Post by scipioafricanus on Jul 20, 2016 22:46:15 GMT
The best part of the series is they can go ANYWHERE AND TIME! Although accurate firearms can limit things. Imagine Europe during the revolutions of 1848, Russian Revolution of 1917, or Aztec Mexico when Cortez invaded. I already called a few of them. I thought Revolutionary America would be great, but how would it work in cities? But they actually made it work. Revolutionary France/Paris would be great, and they did that too. Victorian London, bingo (Haven't played those two because of the damn releasing them every year though)! If only I could my gift of predicting Assassin Creed games into the Lotto...
They figured out as the games went on to limit the "present/future" stuff, so Ubisoft is learning. Kudos to them! Just gotta work on that quality control section... looking at you Revolutionary France one....
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Post by Imperial Khador on Jul 21, 2016 5:38:14 GMT
Assassin's Creed is an interesting one.
The first one was definitely a showcase for then-Next-Gen systems, and was quite visually stunning at the time, though it was pretty linear, there wasn't much to do in the world, and I find it doesn't stand up to replays very well.
I, along with many others, loved Ezio as a protagonist for Assassin's Creed II, as he achieved that perfect balance of charismatic jerk, and genuinely grew as a character. Certainly the game-world seemed to open up a lot at that point, but I don't think we'd have gotten 3 Ezio games if he weren't so charismatic. My understanding is that key personnel left Ubisoft after 2, which is why Desmond's story was stretched over 3 games with Ezio and then one with Connon. Being grand master of the order in Brotherhood and Revelations was great fun, though many of the sub games (like tower defense in Revelations) fell flat.
Unfortunately, ACIII killed the series for me for quite a long time. It managed to make the revolutionary war settings...strangely boring. Connor had a potentially interesting backstory, but just seemed to drift from one major event to another without bringing any flare.
It was a few years before I picked up the series again, but I was craving some assassination action, and played a few last year. Liberation HD was surprisingly good, and the characters seemed much more memorable despite it being designed as a Vita game originally. Aveline was a joy to follow, but unsurprisingly the section guest starring Conner was a downer.
Next up for me was Assassin's Rogue, since I wanted to finish with the last-gen console entries, even though Black Flag was released beforehand. I found Shae Cormack another interesting character, and although I think his defection to the templars was telegraphed a little too heavily, it was definitely nice to see the other side of the coin. That said, some things, such as Uplay unlocked items never worked for me, and searching various message boards, some issues were never patched as the teams were working on Unity, which was released at the same time and was the more high profile game.
Black Flag was next on the PS4 for me, and I found Edward to be the most enjoyable protagonist since Ezio, once again hitting that charismatic-jerk sweet spot, and genuinely having a lot of character growth. Ship combat grabbed me a lot more than it had in Rogue or ACIII, and I was happy to spend hours adventuring on the high sea. Admittedly, there are a lot of points in Black Flag that break suspension of disbelief with the series, with Edward having so many assassin-like skills and interacting in such a friendly manner with so many assassins in side-quests, despite not being formally introduced to the order until very near the end of the game. In a lesser game, that would have put me off a lot. In many ways, this might be the high point of the series for me thus far.
I enjoyed Unity a lot more than most people, I think. I played it more than a year after it was released, so many of the bugs had been successfully patched. I liked that it crossed over with Rogue's ending. Arno was not the most likable AC protagonist, but I'd place him above Connor and maybe just behind Shae. Thankfully there was a pretty interesting supporting cast, and Paris was interesting to visit. I didn't like the new interface at first, but it grew on me, and in some ways I liked the smaller scale of Paris, Versailles and Saint-Denis after the huge Caribbean area to explore. I also quite liked getting the full Dead Kings expansion included.
I've not played Syndicate yet, as I tend to wait for AC games to go down in price a fair bit. I did grab Assassin's Creed: Chronicles a while back for $1, but it didn't hold my attention. It seemed like it was trying to do a lot of the same things as something like Mark of the Ninja, but noticeably worse.
Regarding the meta-plot in the present/future with Abstergo, I didn't mind it, but I definitely think it ran its course with Desmond's story. Seeing Abstergo Entertainment's headquarters through the eyes of an employee wasn't particularly interesting, though it was nice to see Shaun and Rebecca again. Similarly, the nameless gamer 'playing' Assassin's Creed Unity didn't strike me as enjoyable. I think I'd prefer they just stick to the historical settings now and leave the Animus out of it, though I doubt that will happen.
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Post by Pimpjira on Jul 21, 2016 15:19:37 GMT
I have not gotten into this series. I didn't like the first Assassin's Creed and all and while II was decent I lost interest and got distracted by other games. I do have Black Flag on PS4 to eventually give the series one more shot.
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Post by scipioafricanus on Jul 21, 2016 21:04:57 GMT
Black Flag is probably the most "fun" one.
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Post by Imperial Khador on Jul 21, 2016 23:25:18 GMT
scipioafricanus Yeah, I'd agree with that. If someone wanted to play only one Assassin's Creed, that would be the one I'd recommend. The Abstergo sections would still drag, but the animus segments make it probably the best stand alone title.
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Post by scipioafricanus on Jul 22, 2016 0:51:56 GMT
Roaming around the Caribbean Sea attack random ships and places never gets old. You get a tease of it in 3, and Ubisoft gave people what they wanted and made a pirate game.
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Post by Pimpjira on Jul 22, 2016 3:25:06 GMT
Black Flag is probably the most "fun" one. That's what it seems like to me which was why I got that one. Seems like the pirate stuff would make it more interesting to me.
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