Dan E. Kool
Walking Trash Can Robot
Now With Extra Pulp!
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Nov 22, 2016 11:15:40 GMT
This week: Pokémon Red and Blue Version Chosen by: Dan E. Kool Released: 1996 (Japan), 1998 (North America) Genre: RPG Developer: Game Freak Publisher: Nintendo Platforms: Game Boy, 3DS Virtual Console
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scipioafricanus
Cartoon Pony Wrangler
Sega Does What Nintendon't... except the 32X
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Post by scipioafricanus on Nov 22, 2016 14:16:47 GMT
Has the coup happened?
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Balder
Supreme Overlord
Trying to cut down the amount of movies I watch
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Post by Balder on Nov 22, 2016 18:12:35 GMT
scipioafricanus it's just Dan E. Kool doing his thing... (sigh). Things will go back to normal next week. Anyways, please send me more suggestions because I only have one more for next week, which is meleemaestro's suggestion. And since we've hit a reset, feel free to send me a new one even though you sent one last week. As for Pokemon, haven't played any of these particular ones, but the concept is really about the same: repetitive combat and grinding. I tried to get back into Pokemon this year but couldn't do it. Even my nostalgia for Alpha Sapphire couldn't do it. I'll try again some time, but for now meh... I won't leave a rating since I haven't played these ones.
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Post by ModeratorNumber2 on Nov 22, 2016 19:38:54 GMT
Added to the review list.
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Dan E. Kool
Walking Trash Can Robot
Now With Extra Pulp!
Posts: 3,325
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Nov 22, 2016 20:47:43 GMT
Balder I have the power now. Things will never go back to normal again! NEVER!
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scipioafricanus
Cartoon Pony Wrangler
Sega Does What Nintendon't... except the 32X
Posts: 3,571
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Post by scipioafricanus on Nov 22, 2016 21:26:57 GMT
The King is dead. Long live the King!
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MeleeMonk
Cartoon Pony Wrangler
Part-time gamer, full-time environmentalist, and member of PAPO (People Against Palm Oil)
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Post by MeleeMonk on Nov 22, 2016 23:26:01 GMT
I loved most of gen 1's pokemon designs, but I don't think the gameplay got balanced until Silver/Gold. Still, Red and Blue were great fun back in the day. I r8 8/10 (4/5).
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Pimpjira
Guardian Force Shooter
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Post by Pimpjira on Nov 23, 2016 17:47:33 GMT
I spent so much time on Pokemon Blue, loved it back in day. Was my reason for getting a GBC after getting caught up Pokemon with the cartoon and the trading card game. Times I've gone back recently the gen 1 games definitely have some annoyances but overall they are good, 4/5.
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Armored Core Raven
Vanguard Ranger
Radio: The test is over. From this moment on, you are a Raven!
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Post by Armored Core Raven on Nov 23, 2016 23:07:31 GMT
I think borrowed Blue from a friend back in the late 90s. I played through it fairly quickly and was left completely unimpressed with no taste for more. It was like a game that time forgot and reminded me of what generic 8-bit games were like in the mid to late 80s, in some extra awful cases even into the very early 90s, but it was horribly outdated by late 90s standards and the equally outdated platform they released it on didn't help much either.
Hell the Game Boy was already plenty outdated when it was brand new, lacking just about every modern technical feature made available by the competition, like colors and backlit screens. It still managed to get a handful of great games but as a console it's far from as good as most like to claim, it only really had a decent battery life, that's about it. I've had mine since the early 90s and I still love playing Super Mario Land and Metroid II on it, among a tiny handful other games I revisit a bit less often but still enjoy from time to time, like Probotector, Bomb Jack, Turtles II Back from the Sewers, R-Type I and II and Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back for example.
Anyway, in Pokemon Blue I liked my little team of monsters, it wasn't too hard to find a handful of favorites to stick with that worked well enough in any and all situations that got me through the game with relative ease, but I had no urge to catch any more, let alone every single one still out there, even less so when considering how much arbitrary bullshit you had to endure to get some of them.
I remember some of the monsters I had were Ditto, Alakazam, Scyther and Gyarados, possibly also Onyx, and some flying thing I only really used to travel across the map with, then a bunch of others I didn't care for at all. I don't remember which ones I had in Red/Blue specifically but I'm fairly sure that was my Blue team.
I then tried Red shortly after that but as far as I could tell it was the exact same game, and as I felt one playthrough had been enough I didn't bother sticking with it to the end this time.
I've tried quite a lot of games in the series after that but they've all given me the exact same reaction, they've just been the same exact game again, albeit with more colors on screen in some of the later incarnations, and I'm not a fan at all, in later years I've ignored the series altogether but have still caught glimpses of gameplay by YouTubers like Game Grumps from some of them though I'm not sure which games specifically, just that they're newer ones I haven't played myself.
I've also tried some spinoffs and stuff but they were much worse, like Hello Pikachu and Pokemon Snap, complete utter garbage, also some turn-based battle focused game on GameCube called Colosseum, I think, that my girlfriend at the time's younger step sister was dying to show me and get to play with her, it was pretty awful but I found it humorous when a huge flying whale (Wailord?) was fighting some cute defenseless tiny little thing, wrecking it's shit entirely with brute force.
As a whole I regard Pokemon as a series as some of the most generic and stagnant games in all of gaming, only annual ball sports games evolve as little as Pokemon games do and it's truly a case of if you've played one, you've played them all, except the spinoffs but those should just be avoided at all costs.
Additionally I've found some of the earlier games cheap second hand in more recent years, so I actually own Red, Blue, Yellow and Crystal as far as I clearly remember and possibly some others including one on GBA, I don't remember exactly anymore and I don't feel like digging through boxes in my storage to find out. I do not play any of them and the one on GBA doesn't even work.
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MeleeMonk
Cartoon Pony Wrangler
Part-time gamer, full-time environmentalist, and member of PAPO (People Against Palm Oil)
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Post by MeleeMonk on Nov 24, 2016 0:08:05 GMT
I've also tried some spinoffs and stuff but they were much worse, like Hello Pikachu and Pokemon Snap, complete utter garbage, also some turn-based battle focused game on GameCube called Colosseum, I think, that my girlfriend at the time's younger step sister was dying to show me and get to play with her, it was pretty awful but I found it humorous when a huge flying whale (Wailord?) was fighting some cute defenseless tiny little thing, wrecking it's shit entirely with brute force.LOL
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centipede
CGR Undertow Groupie
It was just one soy latte, I swear!
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Post by centipede on Nov 24, 2016 12:54:12 GMT
Is that picture an official poster?
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Cervantes
Off-Brand Transformable Robot
A former Incompetent Evil Commander (XP: 2423)
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Post by Cervantes on Nov 25, 2016 2:13:01 GMT
I played one of them (Blue?) using a Super Gameboy. At the time, I was already interested in the anime, as everyone who was 12 in my school... When I finally got to play the game, at first I thought it was underwhelming: I was expecting a more advanced game, especially regarding graphics, so I do agree with Armored Core Raven's statement that it was an outdated game released for an outdated console. But the thing is: as I kept playing, I liked it more and more. Exactly for being an "outdated" game, it gave me an early feeling of playing through a retro game - something I would only feel again while playing Cave Story in 2004-5. The simplicity became charming. At the same time, I liked to experiment with different team configurations, so there was some replay value. Besides, the entire idea of finding and capturing fantastic creatures was awesome, especially with the legends surrounding the existence of a secret one, Mew. I know Megami Tensei did it first, but then Pokémon added the whole trading/dueling aspect. Sadly, I never had the chance to trade Pokémons or to battle other trainers, but I can definitely see how that was completely revolutionary for its time. That's why, all in all, I do think Pokémon Red/Blue was an outstanding game: nothing was particularly great about it, but the sum of its parts made for a great experience. I later played Gold/Silver, but didn't like them. I thought they adding new Pokémons was a bad idea, especially with them having awful designs and names: how the hell do you go from the iconic designs of Charmander, Bulbassaur and Squirtle to the lame Chikorita, Cyndaquil and Totodile? The story was just not there (I don't remember anything about it) and all the additions just made the game feel convoluted, as the charming simplicity of the first one was lost. It may be more balanced, but it just felt too much of a "serious business" to me, which was only aggravated by every new game. By the way, how are the Red/Blue remakes? Are they true to the originals or changed too much?
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Guilion
Lord Wing
Former Incompetent Evil Commander
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Post by Guilion on Nov 25, 2016 2:33:44 GMT
If this had been Gen 2 I would've given it a 1 because of the damned PC system but since I don't have any feuds with Gen 1 I'll give it a 4 because I don't like the sprites for it I guess.
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lukefonfabre388
Sonic Wing
Move like a shadow, sting like a nuke.
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Post by lukefonfabre388 on Nov 25, 2016 3:13:46 GMT
Some of those gen 1 designs are pathetic. A pokeball, an even bigger pokeball, a duck with a stick, a puddle of sludge, a bigger puddle of sludge. Seriously look at all the improvments they made since the originals came out. Pokemon needed to move on eventually and im glad they did. The gameplay in the original games had so many glitches and was launched on an already dated system. The gameplay in gen 1 was not balanced until gold and silver came out.
Genwunners need to just move on. They can like gen 1 all they want but that does not make it the best when they have made so many improvments to the gameplay over time.
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stratogustav
Supreme Overlord
Warrior with Bandana
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Post by stratogustav on Nov 25, 2016 3:18:03 GMT
I'm one of the ultra rare players that don't know anything about Pokémon other than the Smash characters.
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