MeleeMonk
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Post by MeleeMonk on May 6, 2018 2:40:18 GMT
It annoys me because while I do think the 80s was an important decade for film, animation, gaming and music, it wasn't definitively the best decade for any of those, either. And on an unrelated but far more important note, the 80s was by far one of the absolute worst decades for environmental protection; the amazon rainforest was burned at an alarming rate, fast food became a nationwide sensation with the rise of companies like McDonalds and Burger King (which were a part of the industry that was responsible for clearing rainforest in south and central america), the environmentalist movement that had started to gain traction during the 60s and 70s (thanks to the hippies) had seemingly disappeared, and America was undoubtedly going through the most ultra-conservative era the country had seen up to that point with Ronald Regan in office, which also had a negative effect on the lower class.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that worshiping a decade purely for the entertainment produced during that time is just ridiculous, as is the notion of defining your personality based on the decade you were raised, like Mark and James Rolfe do. And it's not just them. A LOT of people are like this; Mark and James just happen to be notable examples. Is it because these people value art over more important issues like politics and the environment? I don't know, but I think it's ridiculous either way.
I mean, I'm a 90s kid, but I don't worship everything produced in the 90s (in fact, I hated just about every animated show and film I grew up with that was produced during that time). I guess it just bothers me when I see people like this who have their nostalgia caps fastened on too tightly. Either that or they're just the sheepy/conformist kind of people who just follow trends that their friends follow, and like what they like.
t.l;d.r: I don't understand the trend of "I'm from the x generation, so I think everything pop-culture/entertainment related from that generation is eternally the best OF ALL TIME".
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 6, 2018 2:53:07 GMT
I never experienced the 80s, but fuck did it sound cool. I don't haye any particular period, but the 80s had a lot of cool stuff. Like riding the video game medium when it first started to become something big. I have a good chance to live to 2080. Hope it's just as rad. I'll be almost 90 years old, but hopefully technology will make it possible to have a good time.
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Armored Core Raven
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Post by Armored Core Raven on May 6, 2018 2:53:53 GMT
I prefer the 90s.
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Post by Cervantes on May 6, 2018 4:39:50 GMT
I like the 60s/70s/80s/90s, I just don't care as much for the 2000s/10s. For movies and music, I'm between the late 60s, 70s and the 80s - I think it's the high of conceptual and highly intelligent sci-fi (think of 2001, Planet of the Apes, Alien/Aliens, Blade Runner, The Thing) and before music turned into shit. For games, the 90s, high of pixel art and arcade design. I also give a shout out for the 1920s as it has some great movies, Metropolis being the stand out for me. As far as the environment goes, to keep in with MeleeMonk's comments, I guess the 80s and 90s do seem to be a very low point, with a bit of a recovery in the 2000s and another recent fall in the 2010s. |
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Post by winnersdontusedrugs on May 6, 2018 5:57:20 GMT
I mean, how can anyone like the 80s when GLONALD GRUMPF was in it, am I right guys?
I remember when I was a kid everybody my age thought the 80s were corny, it feels like the people younger than me are the ones who really like the 80s (aside from the people who grew up in the 80s of course). I do wish this 80's revival thing I keep seeing in media would stop though, it's like a bad sequel to a movie.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 6, 2018 10:05:30 GMT
I mean, how can anyone like the 80s when GLONALD GRUMPF was in it, am I right guys? I remember when I was a kid everybody my age thought the 80s were corny, it feels like the people younger than me are the ones who really like the 80s (aside from the people who grew up in the 80s of course). I do wish this 80's revival thing I keep seeing in media would stop though, it's like a bad sequel to a movie. Isn't that what the 80s is about though, bad sequels? |
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Post by centipede on May 6, 2018 10:17:41 GMT
1) Nostalgia sells. Our boy Bussler knows it.
2) Hollywood is either too scared or too lazy to be original anymore.
3) Those times were simpler compared to today. No Big Brother watching you, very little identity politics, employment was more likely (unless in the event of a recession), no Chinese buying all your houses, no oil-motivated invasions of other countries breeding terrorists...
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cobretti
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Post by cobretti on May 6, 2018 11:25:13 GMT
The young tweed hipsters that feed this retro wave weren’t alive or too young to understand the bad stuff that would have happened. But I don’t think the 80s were as rotten as Melee does. In the US, we were coming out of the 70s and the worst president in modern history, Jimmy Carter. His limp wristed and ineffectual leadership left the economy in shambles and our standing in the world diminished. It was Regan’s policies brought down the Soviet Union and ended the threat of nuclear annihilation. The economy started to recover. We were respected in the world again. The 80s, by my estimation, kicked ass.
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Post by Dan E. Kool on May 6, 2018 14:23:30 GMT
The reason that 80's culture seems to be coming back right now is that the guys who grew up with it are now old enough to be the writers, producers, and creators of today. It happens all the time, over and over. We take the stuff we grew up with and then put our own spin on it to make something new.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 6, 2018 16:20:27 GMT
The young tweed hipsters that feed this retro wave weren’t alive or too young to understand the bad stuff that would have happened. But I don’t think the 80s were as rotten as Melee does. In the US, we were coming out of the 70s and the worst president in modern history, Jimmy Carter. His limp wristed and ineffectual leadership left the economy in shambles and our standing in the world diminished. It was Regan’s policies brought down the Soviet Union and ended the threat of nuclear annihilation. The economy started to recover. We were respected in the world again. The 80s, by my estimation, kicked ass. And it was through Reagan's economic policies that would later be a predecessor that fucked up the economy in 2008. |
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Post by cobretti on May 6, 2018 16:53:55 GMT
The young tweed hipsters that feed this retro wave weren’t alive or too young to understand the bad stuff that would have happened. But I don’t think the 80s were as rotten as Melee does. In the US, we were coming out of the 70s and the worst president in modern history, Jimmy Carter. His limp wristed and ineffectual leadership left the economy in shambles and our standing in the world diminished. It was Regan’s policies brought down the Soviet Union and ended the threat of nuclear annihilation. The economy started to recover. We were respected in the world again. The 80s, by my estimation, kicked ass. And it was through Regan's economic policies that would later be a predecessor that fucked up the economy in 2008. According to who? That pinko Krugman? The kind of mortgage lending that sunk the economy didn’t happen until well after Reagan left office. Clinton and W did way, way more to set the 2008 collapse than Reagan did. |
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Post by winnersdontusedrugs on May 6, 2018 17:27:13 GMT
Isn't that what the 80s is about though, bad sequels? True, but they're usually off of better movies that were also released in the 80s. Dan E. KoolI think what makes this different is that some of the younger kids are in on it too. I highly doubt the people who came up with stuff like vaporwave actually grew up in the 80s. |
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MeleeMonk
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Post by MeleeMonk on May 6, 2018 22:44:05 GMT
Cervantes In the US, the 90s was a significant improvement for environmental awareness compared to the 80s, but I don't know if the same was true for Brazil. Nowadays, it seems like every country EXCEPT the US is becoming progressively more environmentally aware.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 6, 2018 22:46:04 GMT
And it was through Regan's economic policies that would later be a predecessor that fucked up the economy in 2008. According to who? That pinko Krugman? The kind of mortgage lending that sunk the economy didn’t happen until well after Reagan left office. Clinton and W did way, way more to set the 2008 collapse than Reagan did. According to my university studies in Modern History. |
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Post by cobretti on May 6, 2018 23:51:48 GMT
According to who? That pinko Krugman? The kind of mortgage lending that sunk the economy didn’t happen until well after Reagan left office. Clinton and W did way, way more to set the 2008 collapse than Reagan did. According to my university studies in Modern History. I think your university has a bit of a skewered version of history. I get that a state run university in a largely socialist nation wouldn’t want to attribute economic prosperity to brash, big dick swinging, dyed in the wool capitalist, but blaming the 2008 on Reagan is flat wrong. Reaganomics curbed a decade of inflation and joblessness and saved the US economy. |
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