Spirit Bomb
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Jul 23, 2018 3:49:18 GMT
Nintendo is going to start suing ROM sites for upwards of 100 million dollars.
What are your thoughts on this?
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Armored Core Raven
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Post by Armored Core Raven on Jul 23, 2018 4:21:59 GMT
I'm already boycotting Nintendo for all the other shit they've pulled over the decades, I can't do more than that, but I sure would if I could.
Besides, the rom sites are providing a legal service, it's not illegal if you own the games, suing them makes no sense and I hope it bites Nintendo back so hard they go as bankrupt as they already are morally. The faster that company dies the better for all of gaming.
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Post by Pimpjira on Jul 23, 2018 13:42:12 GMT
I'm already boycotting Nintendo for all the other shit they've pulled over the decades, I can't do more than that, but I sure would if I could. Besides, the rom sites are providing a legal service, it's not illegal if you own the games, suing them makes no sense and I hope it bites Nintendo back so hard they go as bankrupt as they already are morally. The faster that company dies the better for all of gaming. Emulators aren't illegal, but pretty sure distributing ROMs to millions of people is.
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Armored Core Raven
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Post by Armored Core Raven on Jul 23, 2018 16:15:05 GMT
Emulators aren't illegal, but pretty sure distributing ROMs to millions of people is. Depends where the site is hosted, not all countries have such laws.
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stratogustav
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Post by stratogustav on Jul 23, 2018 20:38:14 GMT
That is really fuck up. I hope they lose.
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Spirit Bomb
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Jul 23, 2018 23:40:41 GMT
That is really fuck up. I hope they lose. Indeed it is. Especially since ROM/emulator sites generally don't make money. So Nintendo is basically ruining the lives of these people running these sites. They're either going to prison or they'll spend the rest of their lives paying Nintendo off.
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Aug 10, 2018 6:42:35 GMT
That sucks. While part of ROM sites is there for piracy reasons, a very large part of them is usually composed of rare games that aren't available anywhere anymore and that won't ever be released again because of legal shenanigans. Just think of all the licensed games (NES Batman, for example) that will probably never be sold legally again, or games like Panzer Dragoon Saga (released in less than 30,000 copies twenty years ago), or rare arcade games that would be completely unknown and lost to time if it wasn't for emulation (I'm thinking of Osman). A large part of gaming's history would be lost if ROM sites weren't making these old/rare releases available in any form.
In a way, I think of these sites like large public libraries - and, if it wasn't for them, I would have lost my interest in gaming (and its theory and history) during the 2000s and wouldn't be spending money with games nowadays. Maybe the much needed solution would be to establish laws regarding "abandonware" public availability or creating a public repository to preserve games (like the National Libraries), or maybe using an actually sane time period for an artistic product to become public domain (but Disney would never allow that).
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Spirit Bomb
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Aug 11, 2018 23:49:42 GMT
That sucks. While part of ROM sites is there for piracy reasons, a very large part of them is usually composed of rare games that aren't available anywhere anymore and that won't ever be released again because of legal shenanigans. Just think of all the licensed games (NES Batman, for example) that will probably never be sold legally again, or games like Panzer Dragoon Saga (released in less than 30,000 copies twenty years ago), or rare arcade games that would be completely unknown and lost to time if it wasn't for emulation (I'm thinking of Osman). A large part of gaming's history would be lost if ROM sites weren't making these old/rare releases available in any form. In a way, I think of these sites like large public libraries - and, if it wasn't for them, I would have lost my interest in gaming (and its theory and history) during the 2000s and wouldn't be spending money with games nowadays. Maybe the much needed solution would be to establish laws regarding "abandonware" public availability or creating a public repository to preserve games (like the National Libraries), or maybe using an actually sane time period for an artistic product to become public domain (but Disney would never allow that). Good points. What really pisses me off about this is that Nintendo has yet to digitally release ANY of their post-5th gen console games, which means that emulators are the only way for most people to play games like Melee. Considering that less than 22 million Gamecube's were sold worldwide, the large majority of gamers out there have never had the chance to play critically acclaimed titles like Paper Mario TTYD and the legendary Melee, despite how many people have been begging Nintendo to re-release these games in recent years. Nintendo hates Melee so much that they've even gone as far as taking down any download links of Project Melee, the most popular Brawl mod. For this reason I consider Nintendo to be the biggest asshole in the modern game industry. They have absolutely no interest in listening to fans of any of their consoles besides the Wii and Wii U.
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Post by Cervantes on Aug 12, 2018 0:28:21 GMT
One of the biggest sites, Emuparadise, is changing because of this, and it was because of this news that I commented here. It's sad because I've known many obscure games (some that I ended up buying later) through them. This reminds me of the latest Super Bunnyhop video, about how gaming companies in Japan (especially Nintendo) go after even inoffensive game bars claiming copyright infringement:
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Dec 2, 2020 2:40:37 GMT
It's 2020 and Nintendo is still taking down fan mods and emulators. Looks like nothing has changed. What I shame. I had some hope deep down inside me that the company would see a positive reform after the death of Iwata and mend it's hostility towards emulation, but nope. I was wrong.
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Post by lukefonfabre388 on Dec 3, 2020 2:26:47 GMT
Nintendo is a company that is stuck in the past. I am so sick and tired of seeing Nintendo taking out rom and emulator sites just because they can't stand emulation. Then if that wasn't bad enough they sue the people who host the rom and emulator sites. All we are trying to do is preserve games and Nintendo has to stick its big fat fucking dick into everything because they can't stand seeing anyone emulating there games. They shut down fan made projects all the time and a lot of these projects are years in the making. Then Nintendo comes in and shuts it down and all that hard work lost. But here's the thing try as much as you want Nintendo once it's on the internet its on there for good. People are going to play these games one way or another. All of Nintendo's efforts are futile because its the internet. Like I said once something is posted it is up there for good.
Nintendo is such a backwards ass company. Why people continue to support this company I have no idea, especially after all the stunts they pull all the time in regards to fan made projects or emulation. I wish they would just fuck off and leave stuff like this alone. I have a lot of emotions and thoughts about this because it's such a big issue.
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Post by Bogard on Dec 3, 2020 3:03:15 GMT
People always will and should support Nintendo because they make some of the best games of all time. Without them all we're left with is the bland cinematic universe of modern games and first person shooters.
As much as I want all Roms available for free, Nintendo has every right to protect its property and remove Roms from sites.
However they should make all their games available for download. And when they try to remove the site all together, then that's a dick move. And they have the most retarded fan base.
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Post by lukefonfabre388 on Dec 3, 2020 15:06:21 GMT
Majority of nintendo games are vastly overrated. I like games like Pokemon and mario but even then I feel that they are overrated. Pokemon is pretty much always the same thing. Get a Pokemon, go on a journey, take down the gyms of the region and become champion. All while stopping a bad guy Pokemon team from whatever they are doing. Yes they might add different gameplay elements but the whole concept of the game is still the same thing as always.
I found Pokemon rom hacks to be more fun even if a lot of them aren't complete. As for zelda and mario I would rather play witcher 3 then zelda. Mario is still fun though and I like mario kart because that is fun to play with others.
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Post by Bogard on Dec 3, 2020 18:42:01 GMT
Majority of nintendo games are vastly overrated. I like games like Pokemon and mario but even then I feel that they are overrated. Pokemon is pretty much always the same thing. Get a Pokemon, go on a journey, take down the gyms of the region and become champion. All while stopping a bad guy Pokemon team from whatever they are doing. Yes they might add different gameplay elements but the whole concept of the game is still the same thing as always. I found Pokemon rom hacks to be more fun even if a lot of them aren't complete. As for zelda and mario I would rather play witcher 3 then zelda. Mario is still fun though and I like mario kart because that is fun to play with others. Nintendo games aren't over rated at all. I would say other wise. Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Skyward Sword and Mario Sunshine get Lukewarm reviews when in reality they're far better than any game in the genre. Nintendo games have always been consistent in its high quality. Mario games are the best platformers of all time. Zelda games are the best adventure games of all time. Mario Kart's are the best Kart games of all time, Mario Party games are the best party games of all time. Metroid and Prime are some of the Best games of all time period. Not to mention Smash, Star Fox 64 and F Zero X. When you look at history you could really see how well Nintendo games hold up. No one will give a shit if we got a remaster of GTA 3, Vice City or Black Ops 2. But people are going crazy over for the Mario 3D collection for the Switch for good reason as they did with the remasters of Zelda Ocarina and Majora's Mask for the 3DS .
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Post by lukefonfabre388 on Dec 3, 2020 20:10:34 GMT
Majority of nintendo games are vastly overrated. I like games like Pokemon and mario but even then I feel that they are overrated. Pokemon is pretty much always the same thing. Get a Pokemon, go on a journey, take down the gyms of the region and become champion. All while stopping a bad guy Pokemon team from whatever they are doing. Yes they might add different gameplay elements but the whole concept of the game is still the same thing as always. I found Pokemon rom hacks to be more fun even if a lot of them aren't complete. As for zelda and mario I would rather play witcher 3 then zelda. Mario is still fun though and I like mario kart because that is fun to play with others. Nintendo games aren't over rated at all. I would say other wise. Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Skyward Sword and Mario Sunshine get Lukewarm reviews when in reality they're far better than any game in the genre. Nintendo games have always been consistent in its high quality. Mario games are the best platformers of all time. Zelda games are the best adventure games of all time. Mario Kart's are the best Kart games of all time, Mario Party games are the best party games of all time. Metroid and Prime are some of the Best games of all time period. Not to mention Smash, Star Fox 64 and F Zero X. When you look at history you could really see how well Nintendo games hold up. No one will give a shit if we got a remaster of GTA 3, Vice City or Black Ops 2. But people are going crazy over for the Mario 3D collection for the Switch for good reason as they did with the remasters of Zelda Ocarina and Majora's Mask for the 3DS . I would rather take fallout new Vegas, witcher 3, crash bandicoot, and jak and Daxter over Mario or Zelda. Why would anyone care about people going nuts over some Mario 3d collection? The only people who go nuts over that stuff are the fans of Nintendo. Also I don't think you realize how many fans of gta there are out there. People would definitely buy a vice city remastered or gta 3 remastered if they came out. gta 5 alone has sold 135 million copies. not to mention how much money Rockstar has made off of that game and its online component. I cant even touch a Zelda game because they bore the absolute crap out of me. Fighting games aren't really my thing. I basically just mash buttons until I win if I play them. I do like Mario kart though love that series. Why does anyone care about cod anymore? I haven't cared for that series since the ps3 and 360 era.
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