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Post by Balder on Apr 26, 2016 7:44:52 GMT
This is a good topic. Shadow Of The Colossus was huge for me. The added 3D and the HD graphics made the experience more immersive. I played it on my 135 inches projector screen with closed curtains, and it always felt like I could just walk into that world, plus the bosses looked extra terrifying. An immersion feeling that would not had been possible with the regular PS2 version. Isn't there a lot of input lag on projectors?
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 26, 2016 7:53:08 GMT
I was using HDMI and I didn't feel any lag at all. In fact I could even say that sometimes it even plays it better than the regular TV.
In terms of lag in general, particularly for fighting games and shmups where it is more relevant, it usually comes from using wireless controllers. Lucky me I always have a wired arcade stick on hand to play those and avoid any kind of wireless lag.
The quality of the HDMI cable and port also makes a big difference. The best way to test it is with sound, like in games such as Rocksmith 2014 for example.
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Post by Balder on Apr 26, 2016 8:41:02 GMT
I was using HDMI and I didn't feel any lag at all. In fact I could even say that sometimes it even plays it better than the regular TV. In terms of lag in general, particularly for fighting games and shmups where it is more relevant, it usually comes from using wireless controllers. Lucky me I always have a wired arcade stick on hand to play those and avoid any kind of wireless lag. The quality of the HDMI cable and port also makes a big difference. The best way to test it is with sound, like in games such as Rocksmith 2014 for example. I'd say it's most important for FPS games as reaction time plays a huge part. And the quality of the HDMI is just a bunch of snake oil. The signal is digital, it either goes through or it doesn't. The quality has no saying in this.
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 26, 2016 8:54:34 GMT
I was using HDMI and I didn't feel any lag at all. In fact I could even say that sometimes it even plays it better than the regular TV. In terms of lag in general, particularly for fighting games and shmups where it is more relevant, it usually comes from using wireless controllers. Lucky me I always have a wired arcade stick on hand to play those and avoid any kind of wireless lag. The quality of the HDMI cable and port also makes a big difference. The best way to test it is with sound, like in games such as Rocksmith 2014 for example. I'd say it's most important for FPS games as reaction time plays a huge part. And the quality of the HDMI is just a bunch of snake oil. The signal is digital, it either goes through or it doesn't. The quality has no saying in this. It does makes a difference, not just for sound but for screen noise as well, I had to throw away a few old HDMI cables because of this, as soon as I plugged the new ones the screen noise went away. Oddly enough they were the exact same type and brand. In terms of sound you can actually hear this with your electric guitar when playing Rocksmith 2014, either way I would recommend coaxial or optical any day over HDMI when it comes to sound, because you may not have visual lag, but sound lag will definitely hold you back in those type of rhythm games.
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Post by Balder on Apr 26, 2016 17:16:31 GMT
I'd say it's most important for FPS games as reaction time plays a huge part. And the quality of the HDMI is just a bunch of snake oil. The signal is digital, it either goes through or it doesn't. The quality has no saying in this. It does makes a difference, not just for sound but for screen noise as well, I had to throw away a few old HDMI cables because of this, as soon as I plugged the new ones the screen noise went away. Oddly enough they were the exact same type and brand. In terms of sound you can actually hear this with your electric guitar when playing Rocksmith 2014, either way I would recommend coaxial or optical any day over HDMI when it comes to sound, because you may not have visual lag, but sound lag will definitely hold you back in those type of rhythm games. What you're saying is impossible, the HDMI you've used previously must have had bad connectors or been broken. It's all just 1's and 0's, the signal either goes through or it doesn't! It's not analog.
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 26, 2016 17:19:40 GMT
If you are referring to the image noise it happened with more than one cable. The sound lag happens even with the new ones.
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Post by Balder on Apr 26, 2016 17:19:41 GMT
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 26, 2016 17:20:55 GMT
I didn't say it has anything to do with the price.
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Post by Balder on Apr 26, 2016 17:26:57 GMT
If you are referring to the image noise it happened with more than one cable. The sound lag happens even with the new ones. There will always be soundlag because of you TV.
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Post by Balder on Apr 26, 2016 17:32:05 GMT
I didn't say it has anything to do with the price. It says that there is basically no difference.
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 26, 2016 17:34:30 GMT
I don't know if wear and tear have anything to do with it, but you can have two exact cables, the same price, the same type, and the same brand, one may give you digital noise, one won't, it just happened too many times to dismiss it. At least with the projector you don't get digital noise, that only have happened to me with TVs. However with the projector I have had situations where one cable would read the signal better than the other. What I mean is that the input would become more easily recognised by the projector, while with a different HDMI it will just tell me no signal is been emitted, and I can use the exact two HDMI cables, and a TV would pick up the signal normally from both, but the projector may have preferences, and the same goes for my sound bar. If you are referring to the image noise it happened with more than one cable. The sound lag happens even with the new ones. There will always be soundlag because of you TV. No sound lag when using coaxial, only when using HDMI, so it is the HDMI.
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Post by Balder on Apr 27, 2016 6:24:09 GMT
I don't know if wear and tear have anything to do with it, but you can have two exact cables, the same price, the same type, and the same brand, one may give you digital noise, one won't, it just happened too many times to dismiss it. At least with the projector you don't get digital noise, that only have happened to me with TVs. However with the projector I have had situations where one cable would read the signal better than the other. What I mean is that the input would become more easily recognised by the projector, while with a different HDMI it will just tell me no signal is been emitted, and I can use the exact two HDMI cables, and a TV would pick up the signal normally from both, but the projector may have preferences, and the same goes for my sound bar. There will always be soundlag because of you TV. No sound lag when using coaxial, only when using HDMI, so it is the HDMI. So the HDMI you were using, was it brand new?
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 27, 2016 6:26:51 GMT
I don't know if wear and tear have anything to do with it, but you can have two exact cables, the same price, the same type, and the same brand, one may give you digital noise, one won't, it just happened too many times to dismiss it. At least with the projector you don't get digital noise, that only have happened to me with TVs. However with the projector I have had situations where one cable would read the signal better than the other. What I mean is that the input would become more easily recognised by the projector, while with a different HDMI it will just tell me no signal is been emitted, and I can use the exact two HDMI cables, and a TV would pick up the signal normally from both, but the projector may have preferences, and the same goes for my sound bar. No sound lag when using coaxial, only when using HDMI, so it is the HDMI. So the HDMI you were using, was it brand new? What do you mean? The sound lag happens regardless of the quality of the HDMI when comparing to Coaxial. The HDMI quality only makes a difference in terms of image digital noise.
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Post by Balder on Apr 27, 2016 6:36:25 GMT
So the HDMI you were using, was it brand new? What do you mean? The sound lag happens regardless of the quality of the HDMI when comparing to Coaxial. The HDMI quality only makes a difference in terms of image digital noise. Weird, because I've had the opposite problems. Noise with optical and coaxial.
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 27, 2016 7:51:04 GMT
I never use optical or coaxial for video, just for sound. Even for my Wii I use a HDMI converter. Maybe if I use them for video I would also get that.
When I talk about noise I reffer to image not sound. I was referring to sound for lag. Noise and lag are two complete different things.
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