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Post by spidershinobi on Feb 26, 2016 12:13:02 GMT
Oh Nintendo! The family friendly videogame makers I grew up with. Mario and Luigi are some of the first characters I ever knew about (certainly before Spiderman, at least), and that was long before I got into playing videogames. I've had multiple of their system and enjoyed many of their games featuring all those characters I still care about today. Today...
Ugh!... I know I'm in a minority at least in this site, but I feel scared to become one of Nintendo's regulars again. I mean, the 3DS looks great, I know there are a bunch of cool games out for it even though I can only name 4 I'd like to play, but how can I endure Neo-UmbrellaNintendo's business strategies?
Lets say I somehow manage to circle around the fact that Fire Emblem Fates full package is largely unavailable and buy one from whatever smuggler/pirate/scammer has it: what about the rich DLC content? If you like a game you can justify buying DLC, but if the purchase is only for one specific copy of the 3DS it's possible that I'll need a second purchase if something happens to my system; it's only worse when you realize the majority of people will need to purchase FE Fates as DLC because of how the game is being sold (incomplete packs, remember?) and thus become even more vulnerable to unlucky events.
That isn't the only issue I have, though... Nintendo may have become unhealthly interested in DLC and content that requires additional purchases in general, but that isn't despicable in itself. The problem is how they deliver their offers, how online purchases are unstable with them, and how the availability of their physical goods favors people who purchase special editions with the intention of reselling under higher rates. That could be just a mistake on their part, but through their Nintendo Directs they have shown they have people who know what's up, they seem to understand how people behave in the internet, they're probably aware of what happens with and around their products.
Oh man!... Well, this is just a rant, if you want to show some light or just keep it ugly, just post.
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Post by manicottimafia on Feb 26, 2016 17:20:07 GMT
You now what scares me? The creepy fans Fates is bringing in.
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Post by iobham on Feb 27, 2016 16:59:11 GMT
Which ones, the waifu folks? The "localisation" apologists? The ones who dislike the localisation? All the above?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 19:48:15 GMT
Again, I've said this before-- if we keep buying DLC and mindless FPS or racing games, they'll keep selling it-- as much as they can (I replied to someone on the forums here who dropped $200 on DLC just the other day). And if 'elite' collectors with deep pockets are willing to pay $100 for a special edition, they'll keep releasing them in whatever quantity maximizes demand and is thus profitable. Nintendo is following Sony and Microsoft's lead in this; some would argue that the current industry business model means that they have to-- just to stay in the game and financially viable as a company.
And as in the thread I started on the old forums, for profit companies in a capitalist system will always seek to respond to the consumer market (or at least their perception of it) in order to maximize revenue; this is predictable, obvious behaviour that we are all aware of. Didn't you see how many people were willing to pay for XB360 online service while it was free on PS3? That's why Sony charges for theirs now too, with little real benefit to the end user (no, PSPlus doesn't count). So if we don't like industry trends, ***ultimately we have no one to blame but ourselves***- and if we want to bring about positive change (ex. Operation Rainfall-- as a result of lobbying by fans, Nintendo decided to release 3 Wii games in the West when it originally had no plans to do so) then we have to collectively communicate to these companies with our wallets and voices.
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Post by spidershinobi on Feb 28, 2016 0:49:13 GMT
I don't know*, @player1 . I feel what you expressed is kind of behind us by now, because any fight we had against digital distribution as one of the most profitable business practices is over, the existence of Steam pretty much guaranteed the viability. And I think you probably aren't up to date with Nintendo's current business model, because citing Sony and M$ like that... Let's just say you either save more by purchasing from those 2 or you at least play more games.
To make things worse, it's impossible to voice complaints to them with our wallets, because unlike what you've just said,
Nintendo doesn't actually do that, they release hundreds of copies of a product and that's it. FE Fates Special Edition is the only reliable way to acquire a "full" package of FE Fates. How can you object to that if you can't even fit yourself inside any of their sales charts?
But I agree that we can make it go worse.
*no sarcasm
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Post by teddykongcountry on Feb 28, 2016 7:04:07 GMT
I've been overlooking Fates completely because I'm sick of the business practice. Nintendo knew it would sell but they had to artificially inflate the price just like they've done with the amiibos. I stand by the testament that if I can't just get the thing by walking into the store and buying it at a standard retail price or doing something similar online than I won't get it at all. There are many reasons, however, to still buy a 3DS in 2016 (is that what year we're in now?. I'll try to keep them @spider Shinobi centric: 1. Excave - downloadable dungeon crawl hack and slash by Teyon -- same folks that redid Steel Empire -- at only 5 bucks. It is simple on the surface but there's a huge throwback in there. 2. Sega 3D Classics - it's getting a physical release too and if the second one sees the light of day, we'll get to enjoy some 3D remastered Shinobi III and Out Run, at least last I checked. 3. 7th Dragon III: Code VFD - an awesome looking dungeon crawler RPG getting localized by Sega with lots of dragons. I don't see a crazy reseller phase for picking this or most of the titles up either. 4. In case those last ones didn't do it for you, check this one out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZtPdbCc37U |
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Post by spidershinobi on Feb 28, 2016 10:41:12 GMT
Excave is out of the equation because it's a download game (more on that when I talk about Fire Emblem). When it comes to classic SEGA games I have many on the Ps3, so chances of me buying them again are only good once they make a collection bigger than the genesis one they've made. About 7th Dragon III... Hm... It doesn't look like it's made for me. And Sadame isn't looking super good...  The only games that really seem to speak to me in 2016 are FEif and Shin Megami Tensei IV Final. I've been overlooking Fates completely because I'm sick of the business practice. Nintendo knew it would sell but they had to artificially inflate the price just like they've done with the amiibos. I stand by the testament that if I can't just get the thing by walking into the store and buying it at a standard retail price or doing something similar online than I won't get it at all. You know, my biggest issue with buying their incomplete package of FEif is that if you "complete" your game online you'll be spending a similar amount of money with the disadvantage that Nintendo's online platforms are the most unstable right now. If their services were reliable, and worked fine worldwide (not every feature exists outside of Japan/US) I'd be totally ok with gimping my consumer experience and purchasing 1 copy of Conquest and then e-shopping Revelaitons. We've discussed that in the other topic, but the story is only finished in the game that wasn't released as a standalone. For me this is all a huge bummer because I do feel locked out of FEif (by the publisher, no less), and it looks and probably plays like the best Fire Emblem game ever made, the cherry on top being that Camilla is a fusion of all the characters I always wanted to play in past games but never could because they were villains. And just now I've found this video talking about censorship: Oh you already know about a bunch of those? Sure, then skip to when he talks about Fatal Frame and watch from there. He makes interesting observations. |
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