Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Jul 3, 2021 14:41:29 GMT
I've changed my mind about Cinemassacre. It's been run into the ground by now. James is unbelievable boring to watch in every single video he makes nowadays. There is little to no passion left. AVGN is not even written by him anymore. He just sits on the couch and reads his line of cheat cards. It's honestly depressing at this point. Every episode feels hollow, they really screwed it up this year. I think the biggest problem is not just that James hasn't written any of the episodes for a long time, but also that he obviously didn't even play the game before the review so he doesn't know the correct feeling for the lines. There's this strange disconnect between him reading the lines and the gameplay: he doesn't know when he should sound frustrated, angry, flabbergasted etc. He just sound monotonous all the time. In the old TMNT episode, he would scream something like "GET UP, can I get up? Godfuckingdamn GET THE FUCK UP THERE!" while he was trying to reach a platform, and it sounded like he was playing the game at that moment and really making an effort in that jump. The script and the gameplay perfectly lined up, giving a feeling that he was playing the game while speaking his lines. That intonation can only be done correctly if you know how the line matches the gameplay, so the newer episodes completely lost that. And then there are the terrible green screen episodes or the videos that are just fillers or obvious ads (like the Dragon Quest one). It's impossible to follow the channel nowadays, Screenwave gave it a very corporate feeling and James looks too disinterested to make more of an effort.
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Post by Pimpjira on Oct 5, 2021 20:06:03 GMT
Oof
The channel just keeps going downhill.
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Post by Cervantes on Oct 7, 2021 15:10:49 GMT
I've heard of this plagiarism story. What isn't addressed by James is that there was a second plagiarized review ("Bad Taste") that they quickly took down, so it was not an isolated incident.
Then he releases his apology as an unlisted video on his secondary channel... That's some shady stuff.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Oct 7, 2021 21:11:13 GMT
Cinemassacre, once a bastion of YouTube reviews, now an empty husk of its former self. It's incredible just how quickly they ruined their reputation. Calling your fans assholes, plagiarizing reviews and have goons write and direct while the star of the show phones in performances will do that. As David Lynch would say: It's such a sadness.
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Oct 7, 2021 22:24:36 GMT
Oof The channel just keeps going downhill. "we realized what happened" "we took it down" "we ****ed up" "we're sorry" "we're investigating" "we" "we" "we" "we" I think that says it all. It's not "I" anymore with James, it's "we". He sold out to these Screenwave shmucks and now they're (unintentionally) driving him into the ground. When it was just James and Mike, even when the videos weren't funny you could still feel the passion of two friends having fun while producing creator driven content. Now he's just a sell-out, a wannabe, and a phony. I remember him saying in a different PSA video how he loves Screenwave's help because it allows him to spend more time with his two kids (this one) : In the video he actually defended the quality of all his modern AVGN reviews and criticized his fans for not wanting to throw money & views at him. James, if you couldn't juggle having kids and doing cinemassacre then WHY THE FUCK DID YOU DECIDE TO HAVE KIDS??? Now he's officially just another artist who gave up on his dream & his fans in favor of siphoning his fan's money to his children. Lame. I mean, family is important, but why create kids if you can't manage your career at the same time? Typical american idiot right there. This makes me wonder if any of Mark's scripts for his reviews were ever plagiarized, and how much of it was actually his own opinion. Most of it seems authentic in retrospect, but I can't really be sure. Unlike James, Mark was part of a production company right from the start. Considering the fact that he had kids, a wife, (like James) and even a dog to tend to, it seems possible thinking about it now that at least some of Mark's scripts were written by other staff members or maybe even outsourced. This story is making me rethink my opinion of certain content creators on Youtube. It also reminds me why having children doesn't benefit anyone or anything; it's selfish, unsustainable for the planet, and can create problems for the people around you (i.e. his fans). Don't blame the kids, blame the parents.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Oct 8, 2021 7:34:54 GMT
Mark's reviews were more improvisation than James'reviews. I don't think he ever plagiarized as you could tell that it was Mark's personality in every review he ever made. Nobody could fake that, but GameSack came uncannily close in their parody.
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Post by Pimpjira on Oct 8, 2021 18:04:48 GMT
I've heard of this plagiarism story. What isn't addressed by James is that there was a second plagiarized review ("Bad Taste") that they quickly took down, so it was not an isolated incident. Then he releases his apology as an unlisted video on his secondary channel... That's some shady stuff. I didn't know about the Bad Taste review. The apology being unlisted and on another channel though already made it seem very insincere to me. He's not sorry it happened, he's sorry they got caught.
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Spirit Bomb
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Oct 8, 2021 21:26:24 GMT
I've heard of this plagiarism story. What isn't addressed by James is that there was a second plagiarized review ("Bad Taste") that they quickly took down, so it was not an isolated incident. Then he releases his apology as an unlisted video on his secondary channel... That's some shady stuff. I didn't know about the Bad Taste review. The apology being unlisted and on another channel though already made it seem very insincere to me. He's not sorry it happened, he's sorry they got caught.Exactly. That was the same feeling I got from from another infamous apology by another content creation company on Youtube... Well put, Pimpjira. I never expected Cinemassacre to head in this direction, at least not this quickly. I was already insulted by James' recent decisions with AVGN, but this? What a shame. You just can't trust this channel anymore.
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Post by Pimpjira on Oct 9, 2021 19:32:43 GMT
I didn't know about the Bad Taste review. The apology being unlisted and on another channel though already made it seem very insincere to me. He's not sorry it happened, he's sorry they got caught.Exactly. That was the same feeling I got from from another infamous apology by another content creation company on Youtube... Well put, Pimpjira. I never expected Cinemassacre to head in this direction, at least not this quickly. I was already insulted by James' recent decisions with AVGN, but this? What a shame. You just can't trust this channel anymore.I didn't really mean to say the bolded part as fact but it's definitely the impression it gave me. I just don't even get the point of forcing 31 days of Monster Madness again if it's going to be a shit show. Pretty sure they would make more money with a handful of vids on YT rather than 31 on their website so I'm not sure what the motive is here, definitely not James' passion for the project. I guess they did relaunch their website recently and are probably hoping to push it, good luck I guess. edit: I forgot about the vid in the post. I've never heard of Fine Bros, so no comment on them.
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Oct 9, 2021 21:59:25 GMT
Exactly. That was the same feeling I got from from another infamous apology by another content creation company on Youtube... Well put, Pimpjira. I never expected Cinemassacre to head in this direction, at least not this quickly. I was already insulted by James' recent decisions with AVGN, but this? What a shame. You just can't trust this channel anymore.I didn't really mean to say the bolded part as fact but it's definitely the impression it gave me. I just don't even get the point of forcing 31 days of Monster Madness again if it's going to be a shit show. Pretty sure they would make more money with a handful of vids on YT rather than 31 on their website so I'm not sure what the motive is here, definitely not James' passion for the project. I guess they did relaunch their website recently and are probably hoping to push it, good luck I guess. edit: I forgot about the vid in the post. I've never heard of Fine Bros, so no comment on them. Wow, really? You've never heard of the Fine Bros.? They were HUGE during the react faze of Youtube 'bout 5 years back. They were the undisputed kings of that genre when in came to raw viewership. Even if you weren't into reaction videos like me, more than likely you were suckered into watching one of their videos on your recommended bar because of the thumbnail, subject of reaction, etc. At their peak they had tens of millions of subscribers or something. That were that mainstream. ...and then they tried to take over Youtube like the shrewd zealots that they are by launching "react world", AKA basically copyrighting the word "react" so no other content creators could make money in the genre. They committed career suicide right there and then. Even if you never payed attention to them like me you undoubtedly heard about their react world scandal back when it happened. Honestly I'm surprised you've never heard of these schlemiels. Anyway, I gotta admit, I'm really shocked by the aggressiveness of the jewish zealots in America like Barry Minkow and these Fine Bros assholes. I usually aim my criticism crosshair at ring-wing, pro-life, climate change denying christians like scipioafricanus when it comes to religion, but I can't help but be disgusted by the insincerity, manipulation, mendacity, and outright thievery of some of our jewish population. Never in my lifetime did I expect to hear real life stories about jewish zealots carrying out large scale ponzi schemes and whatnot. I always figured stories like this were just nazi propaganda, but no, there are jews that actually do this shit, even to this day! Unbelievable. Talking about this gives me motivation to continue fighting against the church until my last dying breath. I will not rest until every last first world zealot has been exposed and punished.
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Post by scipioafricanus on Oct 10, 2021 1:16:45 GMT
I didn't really mean to say the bolded part as fact but it's definitely the impression it gave me. I just don't even get the point of forcing 31 days of Monster Madness again if it's going to be a shit show. Pretty sure they would make more money with a handful of vids on YT rather than 31 on their website so I'm not sure what the motive is here, definitely not James' passion for the project. I guess they did relaunch their website recently and are probably hoping to push it, good luck I guess. edit: I forgot about the vid in the post. I've never heard of Fine Bros, so no comment on them. Wow, really? You've never heard of the Fine Bros.? They were HUGE during the react faze of Youtube 'bout 5 years back. They were the undisputed kings of that genre when in came to raw viewership. Even if you weren't into reaction videos like me, more than likely you were suckered into watching one of their videos on your recommended bar because of the thumbnail, subject of reaction, etc. At their peak they had tens of millions of subscribers or something. That were that mainstream. ...and then they tried to take over Youtube like the shrewd zealots that they are by launching "react world", AKA basically copyrighting the word "react" so no other content creators could make money in the genre. They committed career suicide right there and then. Even if you never payed attention to them like me you undoubtedly heard about their react world scandal back when it happened. Honestly I'm surprised you've never heard of these schlemiels. Anyway, I gotta admit, I'm really shocked by the aggressiveness of the jewish zealots in America like Barry Minkow and these Fine Bros assholes. I usually aim my criticism crosshair at ring-wing, pro-life, climate change denying christians like scipioafricanus when it comes to religion, but I can't help but be disgusted by the insincerity, manipulation, mendacity, and outright thievery of some of our jewish population. Never in my lifetime did I expect to hear real life stories about jewish zealots carrying out large scale ponzi schemes and whatnot. I always figured stories like this were just nazi propaganda, but no, there are jews that actually do this shit, even to this day! Unbelievable. Talking about this gives me motivation to continue fighting against the church until my last dying breath. I will not rest until every last first world zealot has been exposed and punished. Someone add Anti-Semite to Melee's bio.
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Post by Balder on Oct 10, 2021 7:52:24 GMT
Wow, really? You've never heard of the Fine Bros.? They were HUGE during the react faze of Youtube 'bout 5 years back. They were the undisputed kings of that genre when in came to raw viewership. Even if you weren't into reaction videos like me, more than likely you were suckered into watching one of their videos on your recommended bar because of the thumbnail, subject of reaction, etc. At their peak they had tens of millions of subscribers or something. That were that mainstream. ...and then they tried to take over Youtube like the shrewd zealots that they are by launching "react world", AKA basically copyrighting the word "react" so no other content creators could make money in the genre. They committed career suicide right there and then. Even if you never payed attention to them like me you undoubtedly heard about their react world scandal back when it happened. Honestly I'm surprised you've never heard of these schlemiels. Anyway, I gotta admit, I'm really shocked by the aggressiveness of the jewish zealots in America like Barry Minkow and these Fine Bros assholes. I usually aim my criticism crosshair at ring-wing, pro-life, climate change denying christians like scipioafricanus when it comes to religion, but I can't help but be disgusted by the insincerity, manipulation, mendacity, and outright thievery of some of our jewish population. Never in my lifetime did I expect to hear real life stories about jewish zealots carrying out large scale ponzi schemes and whatnot. I always figured stories like this were just nazi propaganda, but no, there are jews that actually do this shit, even to this day! Unbelievable. Talking about this gives me motivation to continue fighting against the church until my last dying breath. I will not rest until every last first world zealot has been exposed and punished. Someone add Anti-Semite to Melee's bio. Political figure discussion of the week. "Was Hitler and Stalin all that bad?"
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Oct 10, 2021 23:00:48 GMT
Someone add Anti-Semite to Melee's bio. Political figure discussion of the week. "Was Hitler and Stalin all that bad?" Whoa, I'm not pro-Nazi. You're just too much of a bitch to admit that you're pro-zealot. You strike me as the kind of kiss-ass apologist who'd be down on his knees sucking Mel Gibson's weenie at the snap of his fingers. Just because the Nazis were way worse than the jews doesn't mean that religions like judaism deserve to escape criticism in the modern day when their members like Barry Minkow and the Fine Brothers pull nefarious shit like that. stratogustav don't delete this post, I'm just defending myself from these losers. They're trying to derail my thread.
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Post by centipede on Oct 11, 2021 0:32:27 GMT
Wow, really? You've never heard of the Fine Bros.? They were HUGE during the react faze of Youtube 'bout 5 years back. They were the undisputed kings of that genre when in came to raw viewership. Even if you weren't into reaction videos like me, more than likely you were suckered into watching one of their videos on your recommended bar because of the thumbnail, subject of reaction, etc. At their peak they had tens of millions of subscribers or something. That were that mainstream. ...and then they tried to take over Youtube like the shrewd zealots that they are by launching "react world", AKA basically copyrighting the word "react" so no other content creators could make money in the genre. They committed career suicide right there and then. Even if you never payed attention to them like me you undoubtedly heard about their react world scandal back when it happened. Honestly I'm surprised you've never heard of these schlemiels. Not everyone pays attention to the side bar. When I know what I want, everything else is superfluous. Culturally, Jews have always been adept with money, but they're also prone to avarice and megalomania like us goyim. With money comes power and influence, and transgender-deerkin, working in Twitch in jobs they didn't earn. And, thanks to a certain German with a tiny moustache, the their upper class have an exploitable victim status, even if they never spent a day in the camps. The Jews think they are God's Chosen. The Amish also say they that about themselves, but are more deserving of the title. Which church? Life happens, especially if you find something worth more than video games.
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Post by stratogustav on Oct 11, 2021 3:34:33 GMT
stratogustav don't delete this post, I'm just defending myself from these losers. They're trying to derail my thread. I'm leaving that criteria to Balder and centipede since I'm confused about what you guys are arguing about. Something about plagiarism I believe, but I don't really follow cinemassacre, so I don't know what's going on. I have seen some of his videos in the past, but not that many.
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