Bogard
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Post by Bogard on May 3, 2020 22:52:01 GMT
To be honest it's been a few years since i watched it. Maybe you're right but then again my opinions are always controversial. For example I like Alien Covenant the most out of the franchise lol. I'm the most critical of Salvation of everyone I know, so that's not necessarily a controversial opinion to like it, but come on man... Alien: Covenant being the best? What drugs where you on that made that movie even watchable? It's just a re-run of cliches. I thought Covenant was the scariest and the most HR gaiger out of the entire franchise. For me Covenant was genuinely unsettling. The best part of the first Alien movie for me was the abandoned Alien craft they find with the Space Jockey. The rest of it was kind of Boring imo. Aliens is one of the most overrated movies ever imo. The best part was the last fight between ripley and the Queen. Every one says its all Action but it isn't because the marines all die with in the first twenty minuets of the film and the rest of it is all slow pace trying to survive by keeping the Aliens out of the room which doesn't make sense because with an entire hive they wouldn't survive for five seconds considering just one Alien can take out an entire craft of people according to the official lore. Alien 3 is my favourite out of the first four because it bring the sense of Danger an Alien can manifest from the first movie but it's paced better imo with a great dark atmosphere. Alien Resurrection had great ideas like Half Alien Ripley which i loved with acid for blood and all but it was kind of goofey in many ways and just doesn't qualify as a horror movie. Prometheus was absolute shit. And finally Covenant balanced it with the perfect amount of horror and unsettling atmosphere. I was genuinely terrified of the creatures in this movie which is what a good Alien movie should do.
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Post by scipioafricanus on May 4, 2020 1:19:04 GMT
I'm the most critical of Salvation of everyone I know, so that's not necessarily a controversial opinion to like it, but come on man... Alien: Covenant being the best? What drugs where you on that made that movie even watchable? It's just a re-run of cliches. I thought Covenant was the scariest and the most HR gaiger out of the entire franchise. For me Covenant was genuinely unsettling. The best part of the first Alien movie for me was the abandoned Alien craft they find with the Space Jockey. The rest of it was kind of Boring imo. Aliens is one of the most overrated movies ever imo. The best part was the last fight between ripley and the Queen. Every one says its all Action but it isn't because the marines all die with in the first twenty minuets of the film and the rest of it is all slow pace trying to survive by keeping the Aliens out of the room which doesn't make sense because with an entire hive they wouldn't survive for five seconds considering just one Alien can take out an entire craft of people according to the official lore. Alien 3 is my favourite out of the first four because it bring the sense of Danger an Alien can manifest from the first movie but it's paced better imo with a great dark atmosphere. Alien Resurrection had great ideas like Half Alien Ripley which i loved with acid for blood and all but it was kind of goofey in many ways and just doesn't qualify as a horror movie. Prometheus was absolute shit. And finally Covenant balanced it with the perfect amount of horror and unsettling atmosphere. I was genuinely terrified of the creatures in this movie which is what a good Alien movie should do. Look at Aliens as a war movie, particularly Vietnam, and it can change your perspective.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 4, 2020 7:59:00 GMT
I'm the most critical of Salvation of everyone I know, so that's not necessarily a controversial opinion to like it, but come on man... Alien: Covenant being the best? What drugs where you on that made that movie even watchable? It's just a re-run of cliches. I thought Covenant was the scariest and the most HR gaiger out of the entire franchise. For me Covenant was genuinely unsettling. The best part of the first Alien movie for me was the abandoned Alien craft they find with the Space Jockey. The rest of it was kind of Boring imo. Aliens is one of the most overrated movies ever imo. The best part was the last fight between ripley and the Queen. Every one says its all Action but it isn't because the marines all die with in the first twenty minuets of the film and the rest of it is all slow pace trying to survive by keeping the Aliens out of the room which doesn't make sense because with an entire hive they wouldn't survive for five seconds considering just one Alien can take out an entire craft of people according to the official lore. Alien 3 is my favourite out of the first four because it bring the sense of Danger an Alien can manifest from the first movie but it's paced better imo with a great dark atmosphere. Alien Resurrection had great ideas like Half Alien Ripley which i loved with acid for blood and all but it was kind of goofey in many ways and just doesn't qualify as a horror movie. Prometheus was absolute shit. And finally Covenant balanced it with the perfect amount of horror and unsettling atmosphere. I was genuinely terrified of the creatures in this movie which is what a good Alien movie should do. I think we have pretty much opposite opinions on every movie in the franchise.
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stratogustav
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Post by stratogustav on May 4, 2020 10:44:50 GMT
I need to see Salvation, and Covenant, so I can join your conversation, I haven't even seen Prometheus, Alien 3, or Alien Resurrection, so I'm definitely behind.
That said, I really doubt Covenant will be better than Aliens, or that Salvation could be better than the first two Terminator movies.
Maybe that's bad because that means I won't be open minded, and that's definitely bias, but I have been proven wrong before.
For example I actually thought The Big Lebowski was going to be at least decent, and I was wrong. So anything can happen.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 4, 2020 11:15:14 GMT
I need to see Salvation, and Covenant, so I can join your conversation, I haven't even seen Prometheus, Alien 3, or Alien Resurrection, so I'm definitely behind. That said, I really doubt Covenant will be better than Aliens, or that Salvation could be better than the first two Terminator movies. Maybe that's bad because that means I won't be open minded, and that's definitely bias, but I have been proven wrong before. For example I actually thought The Big Lebowski was going to be at least decent, and I was wrong. So anything can happen. Don't worry about not liking Covenant or Salvation more than the originals because most people don't.
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on May 4, 2020 20:55:33 GMT
I need to see Salvation, and Covenant, so I can join your conversation, I haven't even seen Prometheus, Alien 3, or Alien Resurrection, so I'm definitely behind. That said, I really doubt Covenant will be better than Aliens, or that Salvation could be better than the first two Terminator movies. Maybe that's bad because that means I won't be open minded, and that's definitely bias, but I have been proven wrong before. For example I actually thought The Big Lebowski was going to be at least decent, and I was wrong. So anything can happen. Don't worry about not liking Covenant or Salvation more than the originals because most people don't. The problem with Salvation is it was "alright, sorta." It could have been sooooo much more. And with the "original ending" it is clear that the creators of that film didn't know what they were doing with the property.
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on May 18, 2020 20:19:16 GMT
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Post by scipioafricanus on May 18, 2020 20:21:35 GMT
Don't worry about not liking Covenant or Salvation more than the originals because most people don't. The problem with Salvation is it was "alright, sorta." It could have been sooooo much more. And with the "original ending" it is clear that the creators of that film didn't know what they were doing with the property. Funny, this popped up in my feed, and while I appreciate the discussion, I completely disagree with it:
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Post by stratogustav on May 18, 2020 20:26:41 GMT
I don't want to click on the video because I don't want to see spoilers for Salvation, but funny thing I already have the highest score in my city for the arcade machine.
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Post by scipioafricanus on May 18, 2020 21:07:48 GMT
I don't want to click on the video because I don't want to see spoilers for Salvation, but funny thing I already have the highest score in my city for the arcade machine. Watch the movie then we can discuss.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 18, 2020 22:55:43 GMT
I don't want to click on the video because I don't want to see spoilers for Salvation, but funny thing I already have the highest score in my city for the arcade machine. Watch the movie then we can discuss. Yes, we can have a separate thread for it.
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