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Post by ModdedCentipede on Feb 28, 2021 7:45:05 GMT
This week, it's the ultimate in Reality TV. From the future in the 90's, comes... Chosen by: dschult3Year: 1998 Starring: Jim Carrey Written by: Andrew Nichol Directed by: Peter Weir
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Dlotn
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Post by Dlotn on Feb 28, 2021 13:16:06 GMT
I love this one. This is the second best Jim Carrey movie and I think he fits this role perfectly
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Post by Balder on Feb 28, 2021 14:21:17 GMT
This is one of the Jim Carrey comedy movies that actually hold up extremely well. It's still to this day a lot of fun and iconic. 4/5.
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Post by Bogard on Feb 28, 2021 20:38:18 GMT
The concept of this movie is bigger than what's on screen. The message behind it is very deep which asks the questions of ideas such as what's real happiness, the Matrix or the Doctor who refuses to heal a mental patient because he's far more happier in the delusion than he would be with a healthy mind.
Although the aesthetics feels very 90's and it would of helped if it wasn't a Jim Carrey movie, I always liked The Truman show and it's a movie that shouldn't be forgotten because it offers a lot more than most movies ever did.
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Post by dschult3 on Mar 1, 2021 0:23:50 GMT
I picked this movie, because I just watched it on Amazon prime for the first time in well over a decade. When I was finished with it, it struck me how well it stands up after all of these years. The pacing is perfect, and I never really felt like the the director as babying me like a video game tutorial. The movie is well acted, and it actually gave me a glimpse of what Jim Carrey was actually capable of doing. Dlotn, I am assuming you are referring to The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind as his best movie, and if I'm right, I completely agree with you. (Perhaps we should discuss that one day too.) I legitimately hated his wife. Laura Linney did a phenominal job in making me hate her.
I guess I could do the usual college dissection of the film, but I think I'm just going to just focus on two facets:
The moral of the story is what makes this movie great. Ed Harris' character is an overbearing invisible father figure (god figure?) who is unwilling to let go of his baby (figurative in the sense of the TV show and in reality, since he saw him since he was in the womb). This is a struggle that every parent goes through, but eventually has to let go to see their child grow into an adult. I'm assuming we have all seen a Mama's boy as an adult, and (quite frankly) it is disgusting. It leads to the malformation of an adult personality, and Bogard, that is why Jim Carrey is perfect for the role, since he is great at being immature. This is an outstanding warning to parents who think they can control their child's every moment in their lives. It is easy to say this as an outsider, but as a father, I know I struggle with it a bit. I want to be there to save my children from everything, but I damn well know that I have to let them struggle on their own so that they can make it on their own one day. It is a painful struggle within my heart, and Ed Harris has taken this to the extreme as a reminder as to how you can really mess up a person's life if a parent believes they should become a deity in their children's lives.
Then there are the hanger-ons: The people who are there just for the celebrity. Most of the characters in Truman's life could give a damn about his own personal thoughts. They care for the pay check and the de facto celebrity for being associated with the show. His best friend takes directives directly from Ed Harris. Truman's wife is willing to whore herself out to be the first woman to conceive a child on television, yet she hates everything about Truman. His associates, neighbors, bosses, etc. just don't care. Not only was this a warning to society about celebrity and the gold diggers associated with it, I think it predicted the woes of today's social media. People pretend to have the greatest of lives, while on the inside, they are hiding their true humanity. I don't see the difference between the social media hack that claims to have the perfect life and the people who are a part of Seahaven. Then juxtapose those people with the fans who live and breathe the show. They care more about a Hollyweird presentation of a perfect utopia than the sad state of affairs in their own lives. (There's a guy who practically lives in his bath tub!) And in the end, when the show is over, they lose interest. Once Truman makes his final decision, they start wondering what else is on. Not one of them actually ponder the meaning of everything that happened.
In the end, I was shocked at how well the movie still stood up today in 2021. The morals of the story could probably remain relevant for an eternity. I highly recommend this movie.
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Post by centipede on Mar 3, 2021 11:08:43 GMT
Was this Jim Carrey's first semi-serious role? His career got darker with roles in movies like Number 23.
I think I read a theory somewhere that this was some kind of allegory to Gnosticism. Because Truman is a TRUE MAN, he seeks out the truth of his reality. We're talking Strato's "The World Does Not Exist" sort of thing. BTW, where is he? I thought he'd have something metaphysical to say about this movie.
Or it could just be about Reality TV gone too far, because it was an emerging genre at the time.
Fun fact: there is a disorder called 'Truman Delusion', where the patient believes their life is being recorded and played for TV. I once had that, but I was only 5 at the time.
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Post by stratogustav on Mar 3, 2021 16:08:44 GMT
This movie is so good, it has always been in my top 10 of all time, at some point it was number one.
I do like the Kate Winslet movie, it is deep and all, but this one easily blows it out of the water for me.
This movie just at face value without taking into account meaning is at least 9.1, but with meaning included it is a true gem.
Heck Centipede is saying they even named a clinical condition after it. It is that powerful.
In terms of meaning this movie shares the exact same philosophy than The Matrix, both movies use Biblical references, and both movies came around the same time because this was becoming a hot topic.
In fact, only a few years later, in 2003 I believe, we proved at least mathematically speaking that the philosophy of this movie is accurate.
First, we know that the idea that we never reach the ability to create a simulated reality that feels indistinguishable from real life is very unlikely considering how things are moving forward technologically with our computing advancements.
It is true you can also say that even if we reach that level of maturity technologically speaking, there is a chance that we won't want to create any ancestry simulation for different reasons, but if we have the technology you know that's utter bullshit, we won't make one, we would make at least a million, most likely more.
We are curious and we would always want to know what are the possible outcomes on how our Universe came to be, so we would run a lot of trials to see all the possible outcomes in which civilization could have evolved.
So the third option is that we reach this technological maturity, maybe in a hundred years, maybe in a thousand, who knows, it doesn't matter, it could be a lot less or more, but that's where we are heading.
All we know is that our AI advancements are always more insane, so running this kind of stuff in the future would be child's play.
So under that scenario, which is the most likely by far out of those three possibilities, it is virtually impossible that we are not in a simulation already.
There are trillions of galaxies, and each has billions of suns, also with planets, and to say none of those civilizations could reach that level is inconceivable.
But even if it was just us, just our own civilization alone, without anyone else, the numbers are still just as powerful.
To put it simply, at the end of time multiple realities exist, all the ones created (simulations), and the original reality from which all the other simulations originated.
And to say we are the ones living in the original one is egotistical nonsense, the odds of that are basically none existent.
Even if we would only run a million ancestry simulations, our odds are still a million to one.
It will always feel like we are the original ones because we are inside, specially if we haven't reached technological maturity yet, but we know that's how every simulation would feel from the inside.
Using a dome to illustrate this is allegorically accurate, in a poetic sense, that's exactly it.
So the fact that we are already living in a simulation is extremely likely true, at least mathematically speaking, and the numbers are very clear.
This explains why our quantum computers already detect multiple realities existing at the same time, it also explains little things like the quantum eraser experiment, where we can already change the past at least at particle level.
It's pretty straight forward stuff, in the big scope of things the probability that we are not in a simulation already is completely ridiculous, absolutely absurd.
Plus the whole theory is pretty much the same thing all ancestral religions have been saying all along, not just the Gnostics, basically all religions, that we are creation, and that we could become creators.
In this sense the title of the movie is genius because it shows us this reality that is true for human kind.
Andrew Niccol is by far my favorite writer in Hollywood because of the meaning he gives to movies. They apply directly to actual real life.
In Time is another one I recommend from him because it deals with time as a commodity which just like simulation theory, it is also ancient Greece philosophy, and a very accurate commentary of the reality we live in with our limited lifespans.
It is also funny because if you look at those movies just at face value, they can sound very unrealistic, but taking a closer look they describe perfectly what's actually real, and that irony is hilarious and genius comedy indeed.
I could suggest that the propositions of these movies is worth a thousand books, they are that good, and The Truman Show is certainly a gold piece on its own.
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Post by Pimpjira on Mar 3, 2021 22:17:18 GMT
It's been 20 years since I've seen this so I only remember the basic plot. I should give it a watch again since I'd probably appreciate it more now, wasn't exactly my thing when I was 12-13. My favorite Jim Carrey movie is The Cable Guy.
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