fsfsxii
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Post by fsfsxii on May 8, 2017 23:21:30 GMT
Game development is an absurdly long process now. Tekken 7 was announced in 2014, at the height of my fighting game obsession. Age happened, and i'm losing interest in the game now, but Tekken 7 comes out june this year, and i'm really not excited anymore.
Final Fantasy is another example. Unfortunately i have no other games to cite, please contribute to the discussion by listing your favorite games that take way too long.
anyway, should gaming go back to standard definition? or at least not focus on 4k UHD graphics?
I guess it comes down to the developers, some people like Sega with Yakuza, they keep making a yakuza game every year, surely most of it is recycled assets, but they do advance the mechanics in some way.
Pls discuss, and apologies for the low quality topic, its 2am.
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Post by spidershinobi on May 9, 2017 1:09:02 GMT
But Tekken 7 has been out for a while now. I think that problem doesn't stand that much for that specific game...
Honestly I think SD is too low, and 1080 should be standart nowadays... Games aren't really being made with 4K in mind, unless you consider yourself in VR staring at the unreal engine version of Pixie fulfilling as 4K experience...
I mean, I'd totally spend the afternoon staring even at a 2D Pixie in VR, I'm just a Jack Frost anyway.
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stratogustav
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Post by stratogustav on May 9, 2017 1:59:05 GMT
I have no problem waiting for games other than maybe Gran Turismo in VR. I already have too many games to complaint. I already know after playing Dirt Rally in VR that Gran Turismo Sport won't be that impressive. We need a lot more power to make VR beautiful like how games look in 4K.
We also need less wires. Consoles have too many wires. We need virtual stores that carry ALL games. Just sell them all. We also need more storage. I already ran out of my 2TB inside my PS4. Those are things I legitimately can't wait for. I already have all the games I need.
Instead we are more likely to get online only games, streamed games, and games that have an ownership that expires. It is truly a bad situation.
One thing is true, they need to invent slim flat CRT TVs so we can play all the classics in all their glory because it is very unlikely they will ever remake them in 4K and 16:9 aspect ratio for modern TVs. So if we can't have the remakes. At least give us TVs that cam handle those games.
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billspreston
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Post by billspreston on May 9, 2017 2:54:50 GMT
Probably had as much to do with the company wanting to wait and see how SF 5 did, and which model (Free to Play/partial DLC/full game)to go with, as any development issues. Big wigs have no problems shelving a game for years or permanently if they feel it's not marketable.
Bethesda has probably been sitting on decent builds of Elder Scrolls 6 for a few years now, and they can afford to wait, even if it's cost them tens of millions of development already.
I've heard some stories of a game stuck in development hell, from a studio that talked to major publishers and they all wanted drastically different things. One wanted the game to be about time traveling to WW2 because Medal of Honor was hot at the time, another wanted it to be more sci fi like Halo, and others wanted it to be more like a Superhero kind of story.
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MeleeMonk
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Post by MeleeMonk on May 9, 2017 5:25:59 GMT
Ehh, all I really want to come back are CRT TVs. They are so invaluable for SD gaming, especially for fighting games/competitive games. I so wish they were still being produced in my country.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 9, 2017 5:38:31 GMT
Ehh, all I really want to come back are CRT TVs. They are so invaluable for SD gaming, especially for fighting games/competitive games. I so wish they were still being produced in my country. I would have got one too if it wasn't for the space it takes up. |
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Post by Dan E. Kool on May 9, 2017 8:36:48 GMT
Ehh, all I really want to come back are CRT TVs. They are so invaluable for SD gaming, especially for fighting games/competitive games. I so wish they were still being produced in my country. They're still easy to find. Check Craigslist. Most people are just giving them away if you're willing to pick it up. |
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Post by Balder on May 9, 2017 8:51:00 GMT
Ehh, all I really want to come back are CRT TVs. They are so invaluable for SD gaming, especially for fighting games/competitive games. I so wish they were still being produced in my country. They're still easy to find. Check Craigslist. Most people are just giving them away if you're willing to pick it up. Problem is that they are heavy as fuck. |
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Post by Dan E. Kool on May 9, 2017 8:51:37 GMT
An example that springs to mind is Red Dead Redemption 2. Seven years is a long time to wait for sequel. And the "first" (kinda) game sold so well, a sequel was obvious.
I don't think that the resolution of HD games today is what's lengthening development time. I think it's the level of detail in modern games that does it. There are indie games in 4k which definitely didn't take seven years to make, but they don't have any of the beautiful detail that AAA games have today.
I'd like to see a return to A and AA games like we had two generations ago. Developers could focus less on expensive, time-consuming detail, more on style and gameplay, and churn out experimental games on the cheap. I think this is the market that indie developers will (and are) going to fill.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 9, 2017 8:53:51 GMT
An example that springs to mind is Red Dead Redemption 2. Seven years is a long time to wait for sequel. And the "first" (kinda) game sold so well, a sequel was obvious. I don't think that the resolution of HD games today is what's lengthening development time. I think it's the level of detail in modern games that does it. There are indie games in 4k which definitely didn't take seven years to make, but they don't have any of the beautiful detail that AAA games have today. I'd like to see a return to A and AA games like we had two generations ago. Developers could focus less on expensive, time-consuming detail, more on style and gameplay, and churn out experimental games on the cheap. I think this is the market that indie developers will (and are) going to fill. Just to add to RDR2; between the release of RDR and RDR2 they released other games, most notably GTA V (along with all the DLC), which probably took most of their manpower. |
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Post by Dan E. Kool on May 9, 2017 8:54:41 GMT
They're still easy to find. Check Craigslist. Most people are just giving them away if you're willing to pick it up. Problem is that they are heavy as fuck.  |
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fsfsxii
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Post by fsfsxii on May 9, 2017 9:37:58 GMT
would you say the unnecessary detail is making the industry bloated?
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Post by MeleeMonk on May 9, 2017 9:56:49 GMT
Ehh, all I really want to come back are CRT TVs. They are so invaluable for SD gaming, especially for fighting games/competitive games. I so wish they were still being produced in my country. They're still easy to find. Check Craigslist. Most people are just giving them away if you're willing to pick it up. The problem is that I already have one currently that still works, and I have absolutely no room for another one. So when mine finally fails in 5 to 10 years, It'll probably be more difficult to find a replacement, since nobody makes them anymore, and people, usually non-gamers (AKA baby boomers and older), throw them away every day, unaware that there's still demand for them. it's really frustrating and distressing. :/ |
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 9, 2017 9:59:31 GMT
They're still easy to find. Check Craigslist. Most people are just giving them away if you're willing to pick it up. The problem is that I already have one currently that still works, and I have absolutely no room for another one. So when mine finally fails in 5 to 10 years, It'll probably be more difficult to find a replacement, since nobody makes them anymore, and people, usually non-gamers (AKA baby boomers and older), throw them away every day, unaware that there's still demand for them. it's really frustrating and distressing. :/ Technology just like life (according to Jurassic Park), always finds a way. There will be a suitable replacement to be sure. |
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Post by Dan E. Kool on May 9, 2017 13:07:41 GMT
They're still easy to find. Check Craigslist. Most people are just giving them away if you're willing to pick it up. The problem is that I already have one currently that still works, and I have absolutely no room for another one. So when mine finally fails in 5 to 10 years, It'll probably be more difficult to find a replacement, since nobody makes them anymore, and people, usually non-gamers (AKA baby boomers and older), throw them away every day, unaware that there's still demand for them. it's really frustrating and distressing. :/ CRTs aren't like modern TVs. They were made to be repaired, not thrown away. There's still people who can fix yours up for you. |
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