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Post by Balder on Jul 2, 2017 13:17:32 GMT
You're right. For some reason I thought the PS3 took the lead, but the 360 outsold it with less than 200 000 units. They're basically tied anyways. Tell that to a 360 Fanboy. The fanboy thing to say is that the Wii won the 7th gen.
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Post by Balder on Jul 2, 2017 13:22:27 GMT
The Wikipedia page of console sales aren't updated as Xbox One only has 10M sales despite it has sold 26M by Jan 2017.
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Post by scipioafricanus on Jul 2, 2017 14:13:58 GMT
Tell that to a 360 Fanboy. The fanboy thing to say is that the Wii won the 7th gen. I would be interested in how many people are still playing those consoles. The Wii probably doesn't have high numbers on that. Now, if you go by how many people who had a Wii and then bought a Wii U, it lost big time.
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Post by Balder on Jul 2, 2017 14:23:31 GMT
The fanboy thing to say is that the Wii won the 7th gen. I would be interested in how many people are still playing those consoles. The Wii probably doesn't have high numbers on that. Now, if you go by how many people who had a Wii and then bought a Wii U, it lost big time. I know many people who bought a Wii with less than 5 games for it, while their PS3 or Xbox 360 is much larger.
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Post by stratogustav on Jul 2, 2017 16:51:38 GMT
Yeah, for the reasons I stated before the Wii is culturally more significant and won by a large margin.
From 2006 up to sometime in 2009 both the 360 and PS3 had the worst rates ever in terms of sales, any console gen could beat those sales rates. However they got smart and released the Kinect and The Move and changed everything for them.
Both technologies failed miserably respectively because despite the advancements in technology their software developers did not have the talent to make a worthwhile library, and in the Kinect side sometimes the motion controls didn't even work properly.
However despite the massive failure, both technologies managed to put both consoles respectively back in the eyes of consumers as something fresh that was just starting and that represented a long term investment, despite that in reality they had been out for over 3 years. So the console units sales skyrocketed for both consoles and game makers responded accordingly by catching up and releasing a compelling library.
At this point the Wii suddenly stopped receiving significant first party support and audiences moved onto other systems. It doesn't take away the fact that for almost 3 years the beast that was Nintendo was destroying and no one had a real chance against it.
Despite the big failure of the PS3 at launch, the Move refreshment into the eyes of the consumer brought their attention to their new title exclusives, that kept the system afloat for the next 4 years and from the last position made them reach second. One of the most admirable come backs in business history, if not the most admirable.
The 360 was a close third, but they were never completely transparent with their numbers and a lot of sales were rounded up big time. They likely lost by millions by the number gap is usually reduced by fanboys.
The truth is the 360 may never had a chance to defeat the Wii, but it did have the chance to equal or even defeat the PS3, what hold the 360 back was the so called red ring of death that took away the confidence of some consumers for the product. Microsoft took a big lost trying to fix it, and they managed to save the brand, but the damage was already done nevertheless.
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Post by Balder on Jul 2, 2017 18:04:27 GMT
Dude stratogustav what are you trying to achieve here? You come to the Xbox section and splurt out your delusional opinions about the 7th gen and shit all over the Xbox brand with absolutely nothing backing you up. I don't even know where to start. Get me one source stating that motion controls revived the PS3 and 360, just fucking one dude that isn't your opinion. Look up on Wikipedia and you'll see that the 360 outsold the PS3. So wtf are talking about that the 360 finished last? The Wii and the Wii U are the two worst major consoles ever made. I don't go on the Nintendo section to shit on Nintendo. So please try to understand that your opinions aren't that appreciated here when they're always going to be about how the piece of shit Wii won the 7th gen. I'm not angry with you strato, just very disappointed.
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Post by stratogustav on Jul 2, 2017 18:21:51 GMT
I don't go on the Nintendo section to shit on Nintendo. So please try to understand that your opinions aren't that appreciated here when they're always going to be about how the piece of shit Wii won the 7th gen. What? Since when saying the 360 was one of the best consoles of all time we like it or not is shitting on the Xbox brand? Where is all this delusion and lack of objectivity comes from? I get that you are bitter that the Wii was the most significant console in terms of culture and sales, but coming out to say I'm shitting on the Xbox brand after saying all those nice things about it is utterly ridiculous and make you look very unstable. Chill out, we get that you hate Nintendo, there is no need to put your defenses up. Hating is the worse kind if fanboyism, don't be that guy.
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Post by Balder on Jul 2, 2017 18:31:14 GMT
I don't go on the Nintendo section to shit on Nintendo. So please try to understand that your opinions aren't that appreciated here when they're always going to be about how the piece of shit Wii won the 7th gen. What? Since when saying the 360 was one of the best consoles of all time we like it or not is shitting on the Xbox brand? Where is all this delusion and lack of objectivity comes from? I get that you are bitter that the Wii was the most significant console in terms of culture and sales, but coming out to say I'm shitting on the Xbox brand after saying all those nice things about it is utterly ridiculous and make you look very unstable. Chill out, we get that you hate Nintendo, there is no need to put your defenses up. Hating is the worse kind if fanboyism, don't be that guy. Then why is the 360 in third place?
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Post by stratogustav on Jul 2, 2017 18:37:04 GMT
]Then why is the 360 in third place? I was talking about sales. Wikipedia is a site anyone can contribute and change things around. Usually they are close enough, but with so many fanboys it is unreliable when it comes to close calls. For example for the longest time we knew that the Nintendo DS was the most successful dedicated gaming system of all time, but in the last 2 years that throne has suddenly changed to the PS2 by a large margin. Coincidence? I doubt it. That has been purposely changed and now there is no way back.
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Post by Balder on Jul 2, 2017 18:43:11 GMT
]Then why is the 360 in third place? I was talking about sales. Wikipedia is a site anyone can contribute and change things around. Usually they are close enough, but with so many fanboys it is unreliable when it comes to close calls. For example for the longest time we knew that the Nintendo DS was the most successful dedicated gaming system of all time, but in the last 2 years that throne has suddenly changed to the PS2 by a large margin. Coincidence? I doubt it. That has been purposely changed and now there is no way back. So it is just your opinion then that the PS3 outsold the 360 since you don't believe Wikipedia.
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Post by stratogustav on Jul 2, 2017 18:50:46 GMT
So it is just your opinion then that the PS3 outsold the 360 since you don't believe Wikipedia. Nah, I base myself on multiple reporting news and documentaries you can easily spot all over the Internet. Also for a while Wikipedia had it right as well. Just go watch anything about the PS3 comeback from multiple sources. I remember seeing interviews where Phil Spencer himself addressed this as well. I would be lying if I'd tell you I can pinpoint the exact minute of the exact interview, but the content is definitely there. Most likely fanboys have changed those statistics recently just like a different subgroup of fanboys clearly did between the PS2 and the DS. It happens. There is no much one can do about it.
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