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Post by Dan E. Moderator on Aug 13, 2017 7:55:51 GMT
Damn, Dan E! Back at it again with those film discussions! No? Ok. This week: Robocop 2 Chosen by: cobrettiReleased: 1990 Starring: Peter Weller Director: Irvin Kershner Producer: Jon Davison Writer: Frank Miller (yes, that Frank Miller), Walon Green Note that this is for the sequel, not the (much better) original. |
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Post by Cervantes on Aug 13, 2017 9:39:36 GMT
I know a lot of people see this as a bad movie, but as 9-10 year-old me loved this one, I'll go with a solid 5 - even if it's inferior to the first. I haven't seen it since the... 90s, I guess? Man, I have to watch/rewatch a lot of cobretti's suggestions. We should at least give some credit to the villain, as it's not stopped by stairs (as far as I remember). I also remember I loved the "reveal" scene, when he starts shooting at everyone. |
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Post by Balder on Aug 13, 2017 10:44:36 GMT
Why not the first one?
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Post by Cervantes on Aug 13, 2017 10:53:47 GMT
Balder - I think it's because (I bet) we all love the first one, while the second is more controversial. Was that the reason, cobretti?
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Post by MeleeMonk on Aug 13, 2017 11:01:17 GMT
The person who directed Empire Strikes Back directed this. Wow. The same man also directed Never Say Never Again, which is by far one of the most disliked Bond films by fans of the series, or so that seems to be the case (just look at the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes).
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Post by cobretti on Aug 13, 2017 12:49:45 GMT
 The reason I chose Robocop 2, starring Robocop, is that it somehow out sleazed the original. That's why I have a preference to the second one. A hard thing to pull off since the first one was directed by Paul Verhoeven, the sleaziest mainstream director of all time. We all know the first is a great movie, but the second I find to be grossly underrated and underappreciated. Also there was a small chance Balder would have heard of it. |
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Post by scipioafricanus on Aug 13, 2017 13:52:29 GMT
The reason I chose Robocop 2, starring Robocop, is that it somehow out sleazed the original. That's why I have a preference to the second one. A hard thing to pull off since the first one was directed by Paul Verhoeven, the sleaziest mainstream director of all time. We all know the first is a great movie, but the second I find to be grossly underrated and underappreciated. Also there was a small chance Balder would have heard of it. Verhoeven is definitely over-rated. He ruined the original vision of Starship Troopers, while making a quite entertaining movie (which wasn't his point). The second one is good, at least they didn't make it PG13 like the 3rd one. But does anyone remember the TV series? That was actually good, and it had a good amount of promise. Why not make Robocop a cop drama/action show? |
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Post by cobretti on Aug 13, 2017 16:57:33 GMT
Verhoeven is definitely over-rated. He ruined the original vision of Starship Troopers, while making a quite entertaining movie (which wasn't his point). The second one is good, at least they didn't make it PG13 like the 3rd one. But does anyone remember the TV series? That was actually good, and it had a good amount of promise. Why not make Robocop a cop drama/action show? Hey, saying anything bad about Verhoeven would earn you a paddlin' in my hood. His movies rule. I don't have a strong recollection of the TV series. I remember it being somewhat goofy with goofy villains, which I must admit has a certain appeal to me. One day I'll have to track it down. |
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Post by scipioafricanus on Aug 13, 2017 19:26:31 GMT
Verhoeven is definitely over-rated. He ruined the original vision of Starship Troopers, while making a quite entertaining movie (which wasn't his point). The second one is good, at least they didn't make it PG13 like the 3rd one. But does anyone remember the TV series? That was actually good, and it had a good amount of promise. Why not make Robocop a cop drama/action show? Hey, saying anything bad about Verhoeven would earn you a paddlin' in my hood. His movies rule. I don't have a strong recollection of the TV series. I remember it being somewhat goofy with goofy villains, which I must admit has a certain appeal to me. One day I'll have to track it down.  |
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Post by cobretti on Aug 13, 2017 19:31:17 GMT
Dude I fucking love Showgirls. |
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Aug 13, 2017 20:04:56 GMT
This movie had everything a film could ever need to be a killer sequel: Kershner, Frank Miller, Robocop... It just doesn't manage to match the original, for some reason. But it does get points for predicting the Detroit bankruptcy. So that's something.
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Post by stratogustav on Aug 13, 2017 20:17:36 GMT
Shirtless dudes was definitely a thing back then.  About the movies, I enjoy all 3 movies, even the third one where Robocop can fly. But in all honesty nothing beats the original. That movie is on a league of its own as one the best movies ever made. It was frightening for me as a kid, and I didn't even see it when it came out on theaters, but later on when they would show it on TV. So I can't even imagine how much more shocking it must had been on the big screen. |
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Post by cobretti on Aug 13, 2017 20:44:13 GMT
This movie had everything a film could ever need to be a killer sequel: Kershner, Frank Miller, Robocop... It just doesn't manage to match the original, for some reason. But it does get points for predicting the Detroit bankruptcy. So that's something. To be fair, predicting Detroit going bankrupt is like predicting that the sun is going to rise in the morning. It tends to happen when you let democrats run things for decades. Which reminds me of another thing that puts the Robocop 2 over the first one for me, the telethon fiddle player. He ruled. |
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Post by cobretti on Aug 13, 2017 20:45:59 GMT
Shirtless dudes was definitely a thing back then. The Stinger would later put some clothes on. |
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Post by dschult3 on Aug 13, 2017 21:04:19 GMT
Dude I fucking love Showgirls. Yeah! Showgirls was one of the finest horror flicks ever produced! |
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