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Post by spidershinobi on Dec 8, 2017 16:43:20 GMT
Oh man! What a busy year 2017 has been!
And as far as video games go I feel great! Because guess what, I was right to have been a pessimist all along! Yeah! It feels great to see shit on the fan when you predicted it would get there and then everywhere else!
Man, EA!... Holy crap! They might have ruined lootboxes for everyone, but more importantly, because their tactics gained enough notoriety for government organs to step in they might have just ruined means of monetization for everyone else! Thanks, EA! And I hope Disney hands development of further Star Wars games to Platinum or another studio that actually develops games.
Also this year is the first time I have seen people going to internet forums talking about how both fan hype and critical acclaim together "tricked" them into getting games of questionable quality. It sucks for them, but at least that might mean less people are inclined to trust the "review industry" that spreads a good amount of misinformation.
On the same matter, I'm glad that Digital Foundry has been getting more attention, because you can't go wrong with comparing graphics; explaining resolution and frames per second is far more informative than just talking about how much you liked or hated or saw art/charm in any new game.
And I guess the launch year for the Switch really wasn't anything special. It did better than Ps4 and Xbone One, but that isn't saying a lot.
But hey! The positive stuff sounds great too!
After several years of being solely a "handheld side" powerhouse, Nintendo is finally rising to the occasion, and the few releases this year coupled with the incredibly strong Switch announcements for the future make me think that Nintendo is finally a safe territory for (hard)core players again.
I'm also happy to see that more and more games keep being ported to PC, because the current gen consoles - 'cept Switch - look like mistakes to me. Talk about PC, Titan Quest received an expansion.
Finally, this has been a good year for any sane Fire Emblem fan too, as the series got 2 of its best games right in 2017! Playing both Heroes and Warriors back to back makes me hope the next game will be at least as deep as those! But who am I kidding? If the characters look good and the gameplay is still shallow I'll still buy it.
So, what do you guys think about 2017 for videogames? Do you feel accomplished, maybe prideful too right now?
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Dec 8, 2017 18:31:38 GMT
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Post by Balder on Dec 8, 2017 21:24:24 GMT
Eh... this year wasn't anything special.
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Post by stratogustav on Dec 9, 2017 7:53:01 GMT
Probably the best year since the PS2 days.
Nioh I own, great, Zelda I own, amazing, Resident Evil VII I own, mind blowing VR experience, Tekken 7 I own, less Tekken than Tag, but coolest story and a blast as always.
Then things like Gravity Rush 2, and NieR Automata I don't own, but I will buy them because what I played was excellent, and I mean Super Mario Galaxy, Lament Of Innocence excellent.
I know The Last Guardian and Final Fantasy XV came in December, but they are basically this year games, my brother has them and they are impressive to say the least. The Last Guardian particularly for the unique experience and Final Fantasy for making non RPG players like go Wow, this dude needs to be in Tekken 7.
I haven't played Persona 5, but everyone says is amazing. I believe them, it's Atlus after all. Then Mario from what I've seen and how it plays on the stores' demos, it is simply more 10 gameplay, as always, and this time bringing us back to the 3D beginnings, which is awesome.
Also Yakuza 0 looks like a must have. Probably the most complete looking so far. Not to mention we got another Wolfenstein, another Evil Within, and Doom and Skyrim are now in VR.
Then I still don't own this year's racers, but it is incredible to think that Gran Turismo is now on VR, Dirt Rally as well, and that the newer Dirt 4, F1 2017, and Project Cars 2 are geting praised left and right. Even Forza is looking great.
I'm impressed with the art in Cuphead, how Sonic Mania looks, I imagine it plays as good as ut looks, but even lesser titles like Blaster Master Zero, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Mighty Gunvolt Burst, Fast RMX, Super Bomberman R, Ultra Street Fighter II, Peach Beach Splash, and Fire Emblem Heroes look gamey spectacular.
Not to memtion Injustice 2 getting the Turtles, how awesome is that. Plus this year I finally became an original arcade machine owner. Seriously I doubt we would be able to top this year for a very long time if not ever, and that is just with the release of Breath Of The Wild alone.
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Post by leaon79s on Dec 9, 2017 14:39:50 GMT
Is it pride and accomplishment for what the industry has accomplished, or what we as the player/consumer has accomplished? Well since I have no real business being proud of the industry, I'm just going to assume the latter for now and say I platted 3 games this year (hopefully a 4th before the year is out), so ya I'm feelin' pretty proud about being accomplished in the gaming front.  Although I have to admit to feeling pretty glad for Nier winning an award too. |
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Post by Cervantes on Dec 9, 2017 20:06:42 GMT
This year had so many great releases that I had even forgotten half the games stratogustav mentioned - I'm impressed by the sheer number of quality releases. Even 2d arcade-like games got their spot in the limelight with Cuphead and Sonic Mania (which was even received better than its AAA brother). The ones that weren't mentioned yet, including a few quality remakes: Metroid: Samus Returns, Ys VIII, Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, Wonderboy: The Dragon's Trap remake, Rez Infinite (a port but includes a completely new game mode and levels), Overgrowth... I think we might be looking at an almost 1998/2004 kind of gaming year, although I don't think we got any game as influential as the ones released in those years - but it was a really solid year anyway, and I hope I can play most of these games down the line. The ones that interest me the most are Nier Automata, Nioh and Zelda. We also got a few interesting announcements this month: Iconoclasts will be released in January, Bayonetta 3 is happening (sadly, it's now definitely a Nintendo exclusive series, who would guess), Valkyria Chronicles 4, Mega Man will come back and Kojima's new game is definitely looking like it will have his style. For bad things, there was the entire loot crate madness that, as a consequence, may bring again politicians and regulations into video games. On a personal level, I really don't care because I have no interest in any of these games with loot crates (never played any of them), but I'm afraid of what will be the consequences for the industry as a whole. Also, my favourite game I played this year was probably Furi. SOMA, Resident Evil Remake, Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, Kid Icarus Uprising were all great, but man, Furi is something else. Another great thing this year were the pc ports of Bayonetta and Vanquish, as now the games look beautiful and are even better to play thanks to more stable framerates and, in Vanquish's case, unlocked fps. Also, it's always good to have Platinum Games' releases available on as many platforms as possible. |
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Post by Armored Core Raven on Dec 9, 2017 20:49:25 GMT
I only liked Horizon Zero Dawn this year. Still, much better than the last few years combined.
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Post by Cervantes on Dec 9, 2017 21:19:38 GMT
I only liked Horizon Zero Dawn this year. Still, much better than the last few years combined. Forgot to mention it. It was eclipsed by Zelda releasing at the same time, but looks really good. |
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Post by stratogustav on Dec 9, 2017 23:46:49 GMT
This year had so many great releases that I had even forgotten half the games stratogustav mentioned - I'm impressed by the sheer number of quality releases. Even 2d arcade-like games got their spot in the limelight with Cuphead and Sonic Mania (which was even received better than its AAA brother). The ones that weren't mentioned yet, including a few quality remakes: Metroid: Samus Returns, Ys VIII, Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice, Wonderboy: The Dragon's Trap remake, Rez Infinite (a port but includes a completely new game mode and levels), Overgrowth... I think we might be looking at an almost 1998/2004 kind of gaming year, although I don't think we got any game as influential as the ones released in those years - but it was a really solid year anyway, and I hope I can play most of these games down the line. The ones that interest me the most are Nier Automata, Nioh and Zelda. We also got a few interesting announcements this month: Iconoclasts will be released in January, Bayonetta 3 is happening (sadly, it's now definitely a Nintendo exclusive series, who would guess), Valkyria Chronicles 4, Mega Man will come back and Kojima's new game is definitely looking like it will have his style. For bad things, there was the entire loot crate madness that, as a consequence, may bring again politicians and regulations into video games. On a personal level, I really don't care because I have no interest in any of these games with loot crates (never played any of them), but I'm afraid of what will be the consequences for the industry as a whole. Also, my favourite game I played this year was probably Furi. SOMA, Resident Evil Remake, Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, Kid Icarus Uprising were all great, but man, Furi is something else. Another great thing this year were the pc ports of Bayonetta and Vanquish, as now the games look beautiful and are even better to play thanks to more stable framerates and, in Vanquish's case, unlocked fps. Also, it's always good to have Platinum Games' releases available on as many platforms as possible. Well put Cervantes. The fact that a well put together game like Horizon Zero Dawn didn't win an award shows how tough it was the competition and how many good releases this year had. Assassin's Creed wasn't even mentioned. |
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Post by teddykongcountry on Dec 10, 2017 4:43:23 GMT
Also this year is the first time I have seen people going to internet forums talking about how both fan hype and critical acclaim together "tricked" them into getting games of questionable quality. It sucks for them, but at least that might mean less people are inclined to trust the "review industry" that spreads a good amount of misinformation.
I actually appreciate that hype for "new reviews" is dying down because as a fledgeling Youtube artist that likes modern consoles, it can be really hard to compete with the excess of channels that produce excess based on review copies or day-1 purchases. I kinda just do what I please anyways but a nice slap-in-the-face for the industry-vultures is well-appreciated. "So, what do you guys think about 2017 for videogames? Do you feel accomplished, maybe prideful too right now?" Been buying a lot of 3DS and PS4 games that came out a while ago. SMT IV Final has been treating me well (highest grossed average play time on my console) and per the PS4, don't know that any one title has quite sold me although Yooka-Laylee did get me to sink a solid 115 or so Pagies into it. I ought to finish that game some time but I recently retook up Banjo. |
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Post by stratogustav on Dec 10, 2017 6:51:51 GMT
Biggest disappointments as Shinobi mentioned are probably Mass Effect Andromeda and Star Wars Battlefront 2. Those games were really hyped but didn't meet the expectations, with a few exceptions.
I would throw in Gran Turismo Sport. As perfect as the gameplay from Gran Turismo is and as beautiful as it looks, the "online only" is just plain ridiculous and a disappointment as well.
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Post by spidershinobi on Dec 10, 2017 20:21:56 GMT
Is it pride and accomplishment for what the industry has accomplished, or what we as the player/consumer has accomplished? None of those, man. Both of those groups fucked up big time this year. The first problem is that EA used that traditional company tactic of overshooting a bit and waiting for their audience to complain to dial back, and then the complaining got way out of hand until it got government attention. The point we are at right now is the risk of regulations affecting/censoring how games are made for the future. Couldn't people just ask for refunds or not have purchased the game? Nah! That would've been smart. teddykongcountry Oh I wish that trend was dying down. I think it's just creating videogame fans who will look at game reviews with jaded eyes (like me). You know, I didn't talk much about it here, but Persona 5 has been fantastic. I don't think I've played a game that well thought out. stratogustavI don't think Andromeda and Battlefront 2 were big disappointments... Andromeda doesn't suck in every single aspect from what I have heard, and Battlefront 2 is in line with what Star Wars has been for these past few years save for Rogue One, don't you agree? |
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Post by stratogustav on Dec 10, 2017 20:57:29 GMT
I don't think Andromeda and Battlefront 2 were big disappointments... Andromeda doesn't suck in every single aspect from what I have heard, and Battlefront 2 is in line with what Star Wars has been for these past few years save for Rogue One, don't you agree? I didn't say they were bad games by any means. They simply didn't mean the expectations. Mass Effect with the art design and Battlefront with their whole progression system controversy. There are also games like Shadow Of War and Assassin's Creed Origins that were super hyped before release but the excitment for them went down significantly as soon as they got released. I don't mean they are bad though. |
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Post by Cervantes on Dec 11, 2017 1:48:22 GMT
Thinking about it, EA should have predicted the disproportionate backlash, as the two huge games released recently that were not free but still had paid-for-progression/lootboxes were met with scorn and less than expected sales - Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and Shadow of War. I think there was some big racing game and another one that I can't remember now, so the threshold for this kind of thing in paid games was slim this year.
And considering how closely Disney is keeping control of its IPs, it's obvious the complaining would become a problem
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