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Post by Cervantes on May 9, 2018 4:13:58 GMT
Do keep in mind that Ys III is the black sheep of the series, being entirely different from the others (think of it as Zelda 2). Its remake, "The Oath in Felghana", is one of the best games, though. Still my favourite in the series and a great starting point for new fans. Zelda II is great. Yep, I also happen to love Zelda II. I'm just pointing out that, in both cases, it's an action side-scrolling game different from the rest of the series.
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Post by leaon79s on May 9, 2018 14:51:54 GMT
I love the Ys series, but I'll only play this after VII (which I still haven't bought) and after they finally fix the PC version. I'm putting YS III along many other RPGs of the era on my SNES Classic. I'm thinking of finally jumping on the genre. There are remakes, several in some cases, for each of the older Ys games 1 through 5. I'd personally just go for the most modern iteration of each game if I were just starting to get into it... Here's the series' wikia list of the games and their respective versions. Something to note about the series chronology though, is that despite Ys 8 being the most recent game, it actually supposedly takes place between 5 and 6 - so 7 still remains the final game in terms of narrative progression. However, although the same protagonist (Adol Christin) is featured pretty much each time round, every game in the series is essentially a stand alone story not requiring much prior knowledge from any previous installment to get into, so I suppose adherence to chronological ordering isn't particularly important....
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Post by Cervantes on May 9, 2018 17:18:33 GMT
However, although the same protagonist (Adol Christin) is featured pretty much each time round, every game in the series is essentially a stand alone story not requiring much prior knowledge from any previous installment to get into, so I suppose adherence to chronological ordering isn't particularly important.... The exception being Ys Origin, which is a prequel to the entire series and doesn't feature Adol, and Ys I and II being direct sequels. I do recommend that anyone interested in Origin play it after I&II, as I feel it's more fun to catch some of its references this way, but they can be played in either order. Never play II before I, though, as they are very direct sequels - one begins exactly at the moment the other ends. II is a great game, by the way, and my second favourite in the series after Felghana (let's see if it holds its position after playing VII and VIII).
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Post by dschult3 on May 9, 2018 22:00:20 GMT
However, although the same protagonist (Adol Christin) is featured pretty much each time round, every game in the series is essentially a stand alone story not requiring much prior knowledge from any previous installment to get into, so I suppose adherence to chronological ordering isn't particularly important.... Cool. I didn't have a TG-16 as a kid, and I was always intrigued. When I saw the games come out for other systems, I always thought that I would be lost because of that. I really want to check out VIII now.
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Post by Cervantes on May 9, 2018 22:14:38 GMT
It's more or less like the Zelda series in a sense: there is a general timeline if you dig that kind of thing, but each game is generally separated from the rest. I liked every single one that I played until now: Origins, I&II Chronicles, Felghana and Ark of Napshtim.
I've also just discovered that Memories of Celceta will get a PC release this year and it's being ported by XSeed!
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Post by dschult3 on May 9, 2018 22:20:56 GMT
It's more or less like the Zelda series in a sense: there is a general timeline if you dig that kind of thing, but each game is generally separated from the rest. I liked every single one that I played until now: Origins, I&II Chronicles, Felghana and Ark of Napshtim. I've also just discovered that Memories of Celceta will get a PC release this year and it's being ported by XSeed! I take it you and leaon79s are big fans of the series. After I play through this one, which one should I play next? Should I start with 1, or are there seminal sequels that I should hit first?
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Post by leaon79s on May 10, 2018 3:59:34 GMT
The exception being Ys Origin, which is a prequel to the entire series and doesn't feature Adol, and Ys I and II being direct sequels. I do recommend that anyone interested in Origin play it after I&II, as I feel it's more fun to catch some of its references this way, but they can be played in either order. Never play II before I, though, as they are very direct sequels - one begins exactly at the moment the other ends. II is a great game, by the way, and my second favourite in the series after Felghana (let's see if it holds its position after playing VII and VIII). Yea, I forgot to mention those caveats... Mainly I suppose because I&II are usually bundled together as one release and a continuous story where 2 just organically follows from 1. Another thing to note about the chronology is that IV (Memories of Celceta) apparently also takes place before III (The Oath in Felghana), which makes 4 technically the next adventure after the original story in I&II... So that's kinda kewl... I take it you and leaon79s are big fans of the series. After I play through this one, which one should I play next? Should I start with 1, or are there seminal sequels that I should hit first? Heh, I'm nowhere in Cervantes ' league. I have some familiarity with the series but VIII will be my first since the original iterations of I&II from my early PC days... On where to go to after VIII for a newcomer I'd say either I&II since it's the quintessential experience, or do what I like to do and play it chronologically from Origins. But since they're all stand alone might as well just go straight for the most popularly acclaimed of the lot (4- 'Celceta' or 7- 'Seven') and work your way down to the lesser known ones if it keeps interest.
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Post by Pimpjira on May 10, 2018 18:32:04 GMT
I have several Ys games and really need to put more time into them. I liked Origins even though I never finished it for some reason. I wish more of them had current console ports, just don't find myself wanting to play on PC too often.
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Post by Cervantes on May 10, 2018 20:12:34 GMT
dschult3 - I haven't played the newer ones (VII, Celceta, VIII), so I can't comment on them. From the others, after playing VIII, I suggest you should either play I&II or Oath in Felghana. Quick explanation: Besides I&II being great to understand the world and its characters (so you can see, for example, how Adol met Dogi, his sidekick for the entire series, what actually "Ys" means and who are Feena and Rhea), I think II has the best story from the ones I've played. To give you an idea, you even get an item in II that allows you to talk to every single enemy in the game (minus bosses) and all of them have unique things to say. But here's the problem: the gameplay is not everyone's cup of tea. In these games, you don't have an attack button: you just bump into enemies; if they're right in front of you, you lose life, if they're slightly to your diagonal, you hit them. It's a strange system at first but I like it - once you get the hang of it, you'll just be running through enemies and killing them all. So, while I recommend these games for their story and being the starting point of the series, not everyone likes them. Also, Ys I has a small map and makes up for it by having a lot of backtracking, so it might give a bad impression to new players. Felghana is great because it is where the action combat of the series reached perfection. It's absurdly fast and highly controllable, demands good reflexes and every boss is a true challenge. The story and its characters, while not as elaborate as I&II, are very captivating, so much that some fans consider them the best in the series. It's my favourite game, everything considered (the story is not as good as I&II but the gameplay easily makes up for it). I started with Felghana and do not regret it. If you prefer going into I&II first, look for the "Ys I&II Chronicles +" version - it's the most complete one. I wouldn't recommend going right to Origins (it's good, but repetitive and less varied than the rest) or Ark of Napishtim (it's almost as good as Felghana, but not quite) before those. Also, Origins has a lot of the same bosses from I, except reimagined in 3d, so it's fun to first fight them in the original game and then see which surprises their 3d versions are holding. I'll see if, by the next Steam sales, I can grab the 3 modern games I'm missing (VII, VIII, Celceta) and see how they compare to the rest.
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Post by dschult3 on May 5, 2020 22:58:04 GMT
I was just thinking about this game after seeing it on the Nintendo eShop for a killer deal again. I'm very grateful that my wife got me the physical copy, now that it is extremely hard to get. I want more of this game. Has anyone heard anything about the localization for IX yet?
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Post by stratogustav on May 6, 2020 3:23:52 GMT
I like when old series stay alive, and when I see people following them. That kind of loyalty shows how good those series are.
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Post by dschult3 on Mar 22, 2023 14:32:34 GMT
My son wants to play my copy of VIII after he beats the new Sonic game.
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Post by Imperial Khador on Mar 23, 2023 16:25:26 GMT
I'll get there eventually. I think I stalled on...Ys IV or one of the remakes of it.
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Post by Pimpjira on Mar 28, 2023 11:25:57 GMT
I like Adol is actually steering his own ship now in X, not so sure that's a good idea given his history.
I still need to get on playing IX. I know it wasn't as well-regarded as VIII but I still think I'll enjoy it.
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Post by Imperial Khador on Mar 29, 2023 5:16:07 GMT
I like Adol is actually steering his own ship now in X, not so sure that's a good idea given his history. I still need to get on playing IX. I know it wasn't as well-regarded as VIII but I still think I'll enjoy it. Yeah, I definitely don't think giving Adol a ship is a good idea. Isn't "Adol gets shipwrecked and washes up on the shores of X" the traditional opening of an Ys game?
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