Guilion
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Post by Guilion on Apr 2, 2016 23:14:21 GMT
It depends, If you're interested in multiplat games? Go for the 360. If you're interested in exclusives go for the PS3, just keep in mind loading times for multiplatform games will easily double and I quite sincerely hope you don't care for high FPS because the PS3 is quite bad at that.
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lukefonfabre388
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Post by lukefonfabre388 on Apr 3, 2016 0:19:47 GMT
Personally I dont give a FUCK about multiplats. Thats why I never bothered with the 360's exclusives. There was nothing on there I wanted to play except for this one game which I eventually got on the PC and can run it on max settings. While there was plenty of great exclusives on the ps3 I wanted to play. Way of the samurai games, persona 4 arena, yakuza series, renosance of fate, the last of us just to name a few.
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Apr 3, 2016 0:26:17 GMT
Yep, games like Bayonetta have a worse performance on PS3, while Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 has less enemies so the framerate can be kept more consistent. But then, the PS3 has more nice exclusives (think of the Yakuza series, for one). On the other hand, if you're interested in a few original Xbox games, the 360 is backwards compatible with some of them - the reason why I went with a 360 in the last generation was just so I could also play Panzer Dragoon Orta, Ninja Gaiden Black (keep in mind the PS3 has Sigma, so you can go with that) and Jet Set Radio Future. The choice is hard, and is dependent on what games you're interested in.
Also, another word on pc: you only need an expensive pc if you really want to play the games at maximum settings. A cheaper pc will be enough if you don't care about graphics, especially if you like indie/doujin and generally 2d games. The only games a cheaper pc will have trouble to run even on minimum settings are, until now, The Witcher 3 and Just Cause 3 - these ones really do need a powerful machine to run even on minimum; my old 560ti couldn't handle JC3, giving me constant stuttering, so I ended up saving a little to upgrade it. Outside those, most games will run fine on a cheap pc provided you don't mind medium or minimum settings. And the multiplayer is free.
EDIT: So it seems the PS3 must be your choice, then! It's a great console - I don't regret having bought my 360, but there are definitely some great games I would buy if I had a PS3.
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lukefonfabre388
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Post by lukefonfabre388 on Apr 3, 2016 0:42:00 GMT
Ya but didn't the 360 use software emulation to play Xbox games? The performance when Xbox games are played on 360 sometimes is really bad. audio problems, glitches, longer load times, no voice acting, freezing, frame rate problems, just to name some issues. How could it be so bad? I know the 60gb ps3 had original ps2 software in it so it played ps2 games perfectly. Believe me I had one, I mean I dont have it anymore but it plays the games just like the ps2 did thanks to having the original hardware in it. It also has that nice ps2 smoothing feature when playing games.
I dont think I have ever seen backwards compatibility ever get so screwed up on a game system before. I'm talking about how only half the Xbox game library is playable on the 360. Where's the other half?
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Apr 3, 2016 3:32:09 GMT
lukefonfabre388 - The compatibility really depends on the game. NGB and PDO play without a hitch (I think there's some stuttering in a single cutscene in PDO, but outside that, it plays perfectly), but JSRF has some slowdown in one of the areas - nothing unplayable, but certainly annoying. Keep in mind I mentioned the compatibility because I assumed you already have a PS2, so maybe having a few extra XBOX games to play would be a bonus with the 360. But, again, you have to look up on the game before, if it's really compatible. The original PS3 models have, indeed, perfect PS2 emulation, so if you don't have a PS2, that would be another huge bonus (if you can find one of those models).
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fsfsxii
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Post by fsfsxii on Apr 3, 2016 9:09:04 GMT
Cervantes yeah, NGS2 has way less enemies, but they sure as hell are alot tougher to kill. They've gained so much health lol
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MeleeMonk
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Post by MeleeMonk on Apr 4, 2016 11:44:20 GMT
I own both, but I never touch my PS3 these days for some reason, probably because the exclusives bore me to death, and it is objectively worse for local multiplayer than the 360 is because hardly any first party PS3 games support splitscreen, whereas the legendary shooters Halo 3 & Reach do. Seriously, Halo is so much better than Killzone that it's not even funny.
But to be honest, gaming went to shit after the 6th gen for me.
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Post by spidershinobi on Apr 4, 2016 14:20:53 GMT
Very very few Ps3 exclusives can justify the "exclusive argument" people have used for the Ps3 these years. In fact, because of CAVE the overall quality of 360 must have been higher than both that in Wii and Ps3. MeleeMonk, no first-party shooter on Ps3 is worth the time. For Killzone 2 I think the developers actively researched ways to suck the fun from shooters. Ninja Gaiden 2 frustrates me. I own the Ps3 version, and there's something about it that always irks me, and I know the issues on the 360 version would annoy me a bit further. I must be one of the few who would rather play NG3RE over NG2.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Apr 4, 2016 14:49:58 GMT
Very very few Ps3 exclusives can justify the "exclusive argument" people have used for the Ps3 these years. In fact, because of CAVE the overall quality of 360 must have been higher than both that in Wii and Ps3. MeleeMonk , no first-party shooter on Ps3 is worth the time. For Killzone 2 I think the developers actively researched ways to suck the fun from shooters. Ninja Gaiden 2 frustrates me. I own the Ps3 version, and there's something about it that always irks me, and I know the issues on the 360 version would annoy me a bit further. I must be one of the few who would rather play NG3RE over NG2. Why would you ever play Ninja Gaiden 3 over 2?
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Post by spidershinobi on Apr 4, 2016 15:34:09 GMT
Very very few Ps3 exclusives can justify the "exclusive argument" people have used for the Ps3 these years. In fact, because of CAVE the overall quality of 360 must have been higher than both that in Wii and Ps3. MeleeMonk , no first-party shooter on Ps3 is worth the time. For Killzone 2 I think the developers actively researched ways to suck the fun from shooters. Ninja Gaiden 2 frustrates me. I own the Ps3 version, and there's something about it that always irks me, and I know the issues on the 360 version would annoy me a bit further. I must be one of the few who would rather play NG3RE over NG2. Why would you ever play Ninja Gaiden 3 over 2? In order of importance: - Unspammable UTs, better health and magic systems; - More than just the story can be played, compared to that horrible, horrible extra mode in NG2 on Ps3; - No impaired enemies (the wolfmen don't work right in the Ps3 version of NG2); - Enemy design vastly improved from NG2, still disappointing compared to NG; - Kasumi; - Ryu and Momiji seem improved; - Even more mockable story, compared to the only regularly mockable story in NG2. Of course that there are cons to NG3, but when I get annoyed with those I go for NG, not NG2.
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lukefonfabre388
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Post by lukefonfabre388 on Apr 4, 2016 20:13:52 GMT
MeleeMonk Personally now that I look back at 7th gen im really not a fan of any of the 7th gen consoles. As for last good Sony console the ps2 was probably the last good one. Last one with any worthwhile exclusives and local multiplayer. After the 6th gen ended it just wasn't the same anymore. With the 7th gen consoles you had to go through so many issues and hoops just to play your games. In the 6th gen it was just you,the console,the controller and the TV.
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Apr 5, 2016 1:21:00 GMT
spidershinobi - You're not alone, mate. I also do prefer Razor's Edge combat system over 2, although 2 has a slightly better level design (still not even close to 1). What I really hate in RE are the bosses; some of them are just stupid, like that stupid dinossaur. What a stupid, broken mess of a boss.
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Post by winnersdontusedrugs on Apr 5, 2016 2:57:15 GMT
I know you said that PC is out of your price range, but try looking for some cheaper computers. There are plenty of great multiplayer games on the PC that don't need high specs like Quake live, THUG Pro (needs a copy of Tony Hawk's underground 2), Counter Strike 1.6, the list goes on and on.
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stratogustav
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 5, 2016 5:11:05 GMT
PS3 is amazing for people with my playing habits.
Only lacking in the CAVE / MOSS department in which the 360 definitely wins. Also some digital games for the 360 were only available in physical form for the PS3, and in that regard 360 wins because digital arcade games are simply the most convenient form for that gen, since you can log out and still share the games without others affecting your trophies.
I for example had to get Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 Fate Of Two Worlds, The King Of Fighters XII, Soul Calibur IV, and Tekken 6 on physical form for the PS3 because the digital copies were only available on the 360.
They also have exclusively Samurai Shodown Spirits, Garou Mark Of The Wolves, Neo Geo Battle Coliseum, and Rumble Roses, so they win there too.
So after saying all that it sounds like the 360 is better, but I still think the PS3 wins when it comes to content in general, functionality, looks, and free online gameplay.
About the PS2, honestly the HD jump matters. The PS2 Slim may win in looks, and the catalog, but the lack of HD really kills it for me at this point. It's sad but I can't lie about that. Maybe if I had a giant top rank CRT Wega Trinitron TV I would think otherwise, but I don't have that.
You can't experience Shadow Of The Colossus as it is meant to be experienced with just the PS2, it didn't delivered, when you play it on HD, and on 3D for that matter, those two things really make a difference, and make the experience so much better. The same goes for the God Of War games, a strong soundbar and a 135 inch projector screen are peripherals that didn't work well with the PS2 limits. Those new little changes really made those classic games come to life, and the new titles too.
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fsfsxii
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Post by fsfsxii on Apr 6, 2016 20:55:55 GMT
spidershinobiI agree regarding Killzone. KZ2 is a great game, but everything following that (with the exception of Mercenary, haven't played that) has been an abomination. KZ3 was a textbook of meh, even though i platinumed it, and KZ Shadowfall is a snore fest. Resistance series should've gotten the fame of killzone.
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