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Post by stratogustav on Apr 9, 2020 8:42:44 GMT
Despite how tragic it has been, all the extreme measurements of quarantine have been remarkably successful. We were expecting millions of infected people by now. We are not even close to one million, at least officially, in terms of symptomatic people. The death rate of this virus is still higher than the regular flu. The regular flu kills double of what we have today, but it doesn't do it in two weeks. It does it in a year. So imagine how terrible the situation would be without the quarantines. The quarantine do work, but the question is how long can the government enforce it? We really don't know. All I know is that if China did it, then U.S. can also find a way, and hopefully we will. This is the quarantine game of the day:
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Post by scipioafricanus on Apr 9, 2020 10:10:49 GMT
Despite how tragic it has been, all the extreme measurements of quarantine have been remarkably successful. We were expecting millions of infected people by now. We are not even close to one million, at least officially, in terms of symptomatic people. The death rate of this virus is still higher than the regular flu. The regular flu kills double of what we have today, but it doesn't do it in two weeks. It does it in a year. So imagine how terrible the situation would be without the quarantines. The quarantines do work, but the question is how long can the government enforce it? We really don't know. All I know is that if China did it, then U.S. can also find a way, and hopefully we will. This is the quarantine game of the day: Remember, don't believe anything from China.
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 9, 2020 11:52:56 GMT
Remember, don't believe anything from China. You are right, I keep forgetting those communist cunts like to disappear people, I guess I'm just putting too much good faith into what they claim. In fact, a lot of countries disappear people nowadays. It is really hard to trust anyone anymore. 1.4 billion people, 3,000 thousand dead. It just sounds odd. Maybe it is possible, but it is definitely hard to believe.
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Post by scipioafricanus on Apr 9, 2020 19:57:20 GMT
Remember, don't believe anything from China. You are right, I keep forgetting those communist cunts like to disappear people, I guess I'm just putting too much good faith into what they claim. In fact, a lot of countries disappear people nowadays. It is really hard to trust anyone anymore. 1.4 billion people, 3,000 thousand dead. It just sounds odd. Maybe it is possible, but it is definitely hard to believe. The one thing with 50,000 cell phones numbers no longer waiting, the delivery of 5K urns to a funeral home but no people dead... uh huh.
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 9, 2020 20:59:31 GMT
The one thing with 50,000 cell phones numbers no longer waiting, the delivery of 5K urns to a funeral home but no people dead... uh huh. Yeah, that definitely sounds odd: Attack of newspapers doesn't make them look good either:
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 10, 2020 13:16:57 GMT
People say 3% is a low number. 1% is even lower. Well, sure, they are a lot different than 8%, or 10%. But when you realize that even though that 1% was likely already terminally ill, they still had many years to live, and now they won't have those. Because 3%, 2%, 1%, they are all big numbers when it comes to people that are loved. You take away the lockdowns, people goes out again, they work, they get some money, they get sick, and all of the sudden some are gone. Then we don't know if the cure will be even worse than the pandemic, so there is that too. Things have changed, and there is no way back now. Restaurants, sports, bars, clubs, churches, and many other businesses have been closed for a while, and it is hard to know how much can we really save, and by that I mean the people, the people that depends of those jobs, and the people that can get sick of depression, anxiety, and suffer from other things related. This is a war, and a bad one. Here is the quarantine game of the day:
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Post by scipioafricanus on Apr 11, 2020 9:05:44 GMT
People say 3% is a low number. 1% is even lower. Well, sure, they are a lot different than 8%, or 10%. But when you realize that even though that 1% was likely already terminally ill, they still had many years to live, and now they won't have those. Because 3%, 2%, 1%, they are all big numbers when it comes to people that are loved. You take away the lockdowns, people goes out again, they work, they get some money, they get sick, and all of the sudden some are gone. Then we don't know if the cure will be even worse than the pandemic, so there is that too. Things have changed, and there is no way back now. Restaurants, sports, bars, clubs, churches, and many other businesses have been closed for a while, and it is hard to know how much can we really save, and by that I mean the people, the people that depends of those jobs, and the people that can get sick of depression, anxiety, and suffer from other things related. This is a war, and a bad one. Here is the quarantine game of the day: reason.com/2020/04/10/no-nyc-is-not-running-out-of-burial-space-due-to-covid-19
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 11, 2020 12:38:49 GMT
I really like positive reassurance news like those because they lift the spirit of people. It's not like people don't die every day. Without a pandemic the number of people that die around the world is massive. We can't blame every one that dies to the pandemic. People normally dies for many reasons, and in massive numbers. In fact, many of the numbers we have are insignificant in comparison to where we were heading initially, and we can thank the quarantines, or it can be deeper than that. One thing we have learned from history is that every time there are big news, whether is Pearl Harbor, the Cuban missile crisis, 9/11, etc., is that we can't trust what the media tells us. The official narrative tends to be faulty, and usually in a big way when it comes to these big things happening. At this point we can't even trust if Al Qaeda is an inside job, or if Las Vegas shooting had multiple snippers. No one knows. Only time will tell, and usually when decades go by, many secrets are revealed. Some are revealed sooner like blaming Irak for 9/11, while others remain as a mystery even half of a century later, like the Kennedy's family members multiple assassinations. So there is every reason to assume a pandemic like the one we are living could have been planned and designed by who knows who, and for what purpose. We can make many hypotheses: - Maybe it started as an unspoken war between China and U.S. that has only being openly discussed among high secret agencies. - Maybe we tried to mess with China and Iran and now we are suffering casual retaliation. - Maybe China made an elaborate false flag in conjunction with WHO to directly attack U.S. economy, and the European Union. - Maybe the planet Earth was after all in a very critical pollution point, that something had to be created to stop commercial activity at a massive scale, at least temporarily, in order to prevent a bigger catastrophe. - Maybe the global corporations are purposely destroying multiple economies as an strategy to gain leverage through the created recessions. - Maybe global bankers are worried about nationalism becoming stronger in the 21th century, and are looking for ways to regain direction towards their single global government. - Maybe the elites simply want to find excuses to enforce further surveillance on civilians against constitutional rights, and to have more control on what every citizen can and can't do on a regular basis. - Maybe the Earth is scheduled to have a catastrophe of this level every so often for population control purposes. - Maybe the Chinese were messing with wild animals so much that they screwed up big time. - Maybe someone created a virus in a laboratory for research purposes, but safety procedures failed, leading to this situation. - Maybe they are just testing people like Guinea pigs in preparation for a worse future scenario. It can be natural, or it can be many other things, we can't know anything for sure, we can only guess. Our problem is that we can't act based on speculations, and we are limited to assume this is a real threat. If after may years or sooner than that we find out that this was an evil elaborated hoax, where they had to kill real people to make it believable, then we can act accordingly once we have that information. However right now the situation is putting us against the wall, and there is no much we can do about it, other than playing it safe, at least until we can figure out proper solutions. It sucks, but that's the reality, and it is not a pretty one. Despite all of that, it is always a good thing to be skeptical every step of the way because it is only that skepticism what can clarify many things that are uncertain, like these kind of news: The quarantine game of the day is:
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 13, 2020 1:14:56 GMT
A couple of months ago cities like Milan and Florence declared Asian hugging day: Nowadays these political correctness initiatives are part of the past. It shows how easy it is for things to change in just a little time. We had over 2,000 people die from COVID-19 in a single day here in U.S.. I see clouds on the streets, I see rain on the streets, I see humid whether even in the cold. It is uncertain what you can get. You don't want to get other viruses, and then on top get corona. There is only so much your immune system can take. So the recommendations are to stay inside no matter how hard it seems. This is the quarantine game of the day:
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Post by scipioafricanus on Apr 13, 2020 10:16:03 GMT
A couple of months ago cities like Milan and Florence declared Asian hugging day: Nowadays these political correctness initiatives are part of the past. If you don't know about it, look up the "Wet Markets" in Wuhan and other parts of China. But be warned, somethings are not meant to be seen. Our Fake Ginger would blow his mind if he saw those. If the Italians above knew about it, they might not have hugged people directly from a flight from Wuhan.
These have been known to be a potential problem for years for disease and proved to be an issue with SARS.
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Post by stratogustav on Apr 13, 2020 12:23:07 GMT
[qu If you don't know about it, look up the "Wet Markets" in Wuhan and other parts of China. But be warned, somethings are not meant to be seen. Our Fake Ginger would blow his mind if he saw those. If the Italians above knew about it, they might not have hugged people directly from a flight from Wuhan.
These have been known to be a potential problem for years for disease and proved to be an issue with SARS.
Chinese are very famous about their disgusting eating habits. Back when I was in school, I remember my brother telling me about this friend of his that invited him for dinner. Apparently her parents served a cooked rat, and you were still able to make the shape of it. He claimed to be a vegetarian and was able to avoid the dish, but never accepted another dinner invitation from her after that. Every time I go to Chinese restaurants and buffets I always wonder if the meet used on the broccoli is actual beef, and I just pray that it is because it is honestly hard to trust it. This is why if you read my previous post, one of the many possible theories I presented was how the Chinese treatment of wild animals could be the screw up we are all paying for. This is why I agree with Dr. Fauci when he says it is it is unacceptable that these markets aren't closed by now. That said, Chinese are far from being the only ones doing it. Other countries in Asia do it even more openly, and these markets are more easy to spot in those places, like in Indonesia. Any kind of international action should be done on all those countries as well because you never know, and we need to avoid these problems altogether. We can't prove anything, we can't say with certainty that's what actually caused this, there is simply no way to know, specially considering the amount of all the other possibilities. However, what we know for sure is that the damage has already been done, and the least we can do is to force more restrictions for these shady businesses to continue. In fact, despite all of this, some bloggers will defend to death the Chinese. The Chinese can find many ways to cover things up. But bloggers from previous years show us a different reality, a one that is definitely scary: China is a big country, and they can get away with a lot of secrets. Quarantine game of the day:
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Post by scipioafricanus on Apr 13, 2020 21:10:20 GMT
China is a big country, and they can get away with a lot of secrets. China still claims there weren't any deaths at Tiananmen Square.
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Post by Balder on Apr 13, 2020 21:57:31 GMT
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Apr 15, 2020 0:08:01 GMT
Cobretti, as much as I disagree with your political views, I give you credit for being outspoken about your politics and not deceiving everyone around you like a phony, because there's nothing worse than a phony. I fucking HATE phonies. I have nothing but respect for those who are willing to be themselves. It means you're not a pussy and have balls of steel. Am I a phony? Nah, you might be a total pig and extremely naive about things, but you've been generally quite upfront about your political views, so I wouldn't say you're a phony. I'll give you that much, pig.
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Post by Balder on Apr 15, 2020 2:45:06 GMT
Nah, you might be a total pig and extremely naive about things, but you've been generally quite upfront about your political views, so I wouldn't say you're a phony. I'll give you that much, pig. Why even come here dude? I honestly don't see any reason why stealing WiFi at McDonald's is worth coming here to get shit on by literally everyone. Do you have a humiliation fetish or something? I for one would not go to get shit on constantly by everyone on a forum I hated.
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