Sonic Mania (a true 2d Sonic!) and... Generations 2!?

Great to see Sonic going back to it's root, just like Rayman. It's like a renaissance for their series.

centipede - As Sonic Mania is being developed by Christian Whitehead, I bet it uses his Retro Engine, the same one used in the recent rereleases - it has the exact same physics of the classic games, if it has any differences I never noticed. So yes, the gameplay will feel pretty authentic.

By the way, there's a gameplay video. It looks GREAT (and sounds awesome too, with a hint of that Sonic CD feel), especially when it shows the new level:



About Generations 2, one thing I noticed is that they made it quite clear that this is the same team from Sonic Colors and Generations - notice how they left Sonic Lost World out. I thought Lost World was also the same team, but apparently it wasn't, which might explain why I hated it so much. So, I'm even more optimistic knowing its their (apparently) best team working on this.
EDIT: By the way, I just noticed it's supposed to be released for PS4, PC, Xbone and... NX. So we're starting to see the first third-party games officially announced for the NX, that's nice.

Yeah this would be great for the Sega forum. These are very good news. I can still move it if you don't mind, but it is up to you.

I liked a lot the 2.5D Sonic The Hedgehog games, but obviously I like this much better. This is exactly how I wish all 16-bit games were getting sequels, like Super Castlevania, Mega Man X, Super Mario World, Contra, Shinobi, Super Metroid, even Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct. Maybe that's why I liked the M2 Rebirth games so much.

I find hilarious how Sonic Team acknowledges in that trailer that Colors and Generations were their best iterations of the 3D series. I remember recently hearing news that this time they will be focusing on quality above everything, considering those Sega studios were the epitome of cashing revenue centered products, as opposed of Nintendo who always focused more on quality association like Konami used to do.

Lost Word probably isn't mentioned because Lost World isn't very highly thought of. At least I liked it.

Sonic Team has many gems like Nights Into Dreams. Lost World wasn't as appreciated because it is on the Wii U so many people missed on it as they are missing on pretty much every single gem on the system.

Also it came at a time when they had to deal with the really bad reputation of the original Sonic Boom, made by a third Western party that truly ruined the momentum of the series.

Cervantes is just nuts for no liking it. Just like I'm nuts not liking JRPGs. He also don't like N64 games, so there is the explanation.

stratogustav - I think the topic can stay here, as the game is going to be released on every new console - I always see the Sega section more as a section about Sega consoles.

I'm thankful they are aiming at quality this time - even the fact that the games are only going to be released next year instead of trying a rushed release to meet Sonic's 25th anniversary this year might be a good sign. I mean, the most criticized Sonic games (Boom, 06) were obviously rushed to release with almost no testing involved.

cobretti - While I hated my time with Lost World (stratogustav may have mentioned the main reason!), I do agree that it certainly isn't a broken game by any stretch, unlike 06. The gameplay was bad, but I didn't find any glitches/bugs during my playthrough as far as I can remember.

By the way, about the "Sonic Cycle" meme propagated by some reviewers, I should remind you that even Sonic Colors/Generations, which are absurdly great games, got the standard 8/8.5 scores from Gamespot/IGN. It's not bad, but 8 for a game generally considered great is usually seen as the reviewer being nitpicky for no reason, which was certainly the case for those games. So yes, even the high points in the frachise are doomed to be reviewed, at best, as "ok" games.

Funny fact: look at the Youtube comments for the Sonic 2017 teaser. A lot of comments are criticizing Sega for not being innovative, for "doing a sequel to Generations". And Mania is being criticized for exploiting nostalgia. So it goes like this:

Lost World - "Generations was perfect, why they changed everything again? Or why not use the classic 2d gameplay?"
Sonic Boom - "Why have they redesigned the characters? Why have they changed the gameplay again? Why not go back to Colors/Generations or do a new 2d game?"
Sonic Mania/2017 - "No one needs a sequel to Generations! They are just banking on nostalgia! Where is my Adventure 3?"

Man, that is the worst fanbase ever. Everything I wanted was something like the classics or like Generations, and it seems they are doing both things, so I couldn't be more optimistic about it.

It gives me hope that someone actually notices this, because it means there are people that gets it.

The press as you call it have had many of these tendencies in recent years where they care more about causing unfounded drama than saying the truth.

It is easier to pick on Japanese companies because they don't feel as threatening as if they do it with people they actually know and can call on their shit.

The sad thing is that there are sectors of the players that constantly listen to it and eat it up like if it was true, and go as far as to defend it when it's clearly bushit.

I don't hold it against them because after all they are getting exposed to that bushit constantly, so when I see people that can see through all that, it makes me happy.