fsfsxii
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Post by fsfsxii on Jan 20, 2016 13:42:31 GMT
Hello everyone. This is a recurring theme of mental states i tend to see when reading gaming sites for a few years, and i only got fed up of it a few months ago.
Does anybody else feel like people are excessively critical of everything? Some of them try to look cool by doing it, but i grow more disgusted of this way of thinking of everyday, to the point where i don't go on any website or forum now, only CGR. Is it something with the internet and negativity or the people themselves?
Think we've talked about this before, but what are your thoughts people?
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Jan 20, 2016 14:24:48 GMT
It's the old trope of the caustic critic. The internet particularly seems really fond of it; in gaming, I think the major contributors for it were the AVGN and Zero Punctuation success in the 2000s.
I also hate this trend, because it's not representative either of a good critic or a good reviewer. I mean, James Rolfe and Yahtzeee are making humour shows and have said that countless times: their objective is not giving proper reviews, but making funny sketches. Most people don't seem to get that.
The only reviews I give any attention nowdays are those from CGR (because it really tries to look for what could be fun in a game and why it should be played), from Super Bunnyhop (because it goes for very serious discussions on the structure of the games) and from ProJared (because the guy can be both positive or negative towards a game while still being a fun person and not descending into a fake cynism). I still watch AVGN and Zero Punctuation, but I see them as funny sketch shows about video games - not really as reviewers. They are more about the jokes than anything else.
For written reviews, I just go for the opinions found on forums like this one and look for fair community reviews on Steam or Gamefaqs.
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Post by lordecarnage on Jan 20, 2016 18:28:10 GMT
All I know is I scan to see if the phrase 'standard fare' is used to describe what should be 'more of what you love', I close the tab, fling my laptop out the window and run for the hills.
Come to think of it, I may have been a bit overly critical of them.
On a more serious note, there's definitely a lack of overall sincerity ever since people succumbed to social media trends. Sometimes a 'I didn't care for it/not my cup of tea' is all that suffices.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Jan 20, 2016 18:47:00 GMT
As Cervantes already stated; Zero Punctuation and AVGN are funny and their reviews should always be taken with a grain of salt.
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Post by kartmaster on Jan 20, 2016 18:55:32 GMT
Are you talking about reviewers or comments? Or are they one in the same? I think when it comes to the world in general, it's just easier to be negative. It's easy to find problems, it's rarely easy to fix them. And it's ALWAYS easier to expect that someone else should fix them instead of you. And by god, they should have had plenty of time to fix it by now.... Hey look, cats.
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Post by Mister Xiado on Jan 20, 2016 21:38:57 GMT
Ooh boy, this is a meaty one.
People's inability to accept even kind criticism is rooted in their upbringing, in that their self image is wrapped in a fragile shell. They are the most important and infallible person who has ever lived, and being told that they are imperfect delivers a crippling blow to their ego. The failure is blown out of proportion, and makes the person feel bad about themselves, which is when the defense mechanism kicks in. I am not bad, YOU are bad! Hah! You hear this in amateur art communities as "THAT'S MY STYLE". The ability to provide constructive criticism is also difficult to temper, as it requires the mental maturity to be able to recognize the feelings of others, and act accordingly. Not that you should drink the Kool-Aid and follow the SocJus idea that feelings trump facts, but try not to be antagonistic with criticism. Of course, unless you're a professional, you have no reason to keep from stabbing people with harsh criticism, beyond personal desire. I've stated many times that "I could have written a better story by puking up a bowl of alphabet soup", while referring to some popular tripe full of plot holes and Original the Characters.
Not that it's a terribly bad thing to guard one's ego. One's idea of self-worth fuels everything they aspire to. If that is degraded too much, bad things will happen. So, no, I don't have a solution for the problem; I am merely aware of it through observation of many thousands of individuals over a a very long time.
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Post by hatsunemiku598 on Jan 20, 2016 23:31:13 GMT
Negativity is everywhere.
Negativity attracts people much more than positivity as it is more emotionally inducing.
People would rather hear stuff like "this noodles taste really bad" rather than "God loves you" in the morning.
If this was not true, there would be more Christians/Catholics around. Lets not even talk about Muslims as we don't want to go there.....
That's why critics tend to write more negatives then positives, it brings in a larger audience. That's how the newspaper work. It won't hit the news if it is not negative.
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Balder
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Post by Balder on Jan 21, 2016 5:39:49 GMT
I think we should stay away from religious topics in general hatsunemiku598. It's the one topic which worse than politics and environment. |
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fsfsxii
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Post by fsfsxii on Jan 21, 2016 9:29:51 GMT
@mister xiado
I think you nailed it. People just can't seem to grasp the concept of "don't like it? don't involve yourself into it"
Some folks just HAVE to give their oh so diligent opinion on any matter, which comes down to ego problems, as you mentioned yourself.
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Guilion
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Post by Guilion on Jan 22, 2016 0:08:35 GMT
Well I think I'm highly critical of everything myself (And I've been told so, repeatedly) and I honestly think you sort of have it backwards, all I see these days are people giving out straight 8/10 scores to avoid offending people that like whatever the reviewer/critic is criticizing. And personally I don't think pretending everything is fine and dandy this way is ok either, consumers have a right to know whether or not something is worth their time based on the honest opinions of think-alike people.
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Post by stratogustav on Jan 22, 2016 0:51:00 GMT
Those are trends, they don't mean anything. Funny thing you can have an entire community like us remaining completely different and positive toward most games, finding the one good thing about something, even if the whole thing looks legitimately bad at first, but maybe because our taste is by nature already drastically different than the mainstream like tendencies.
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Post by Mister Xiado on Jan 22, 2016 19:26:12 GMT
@mister xiado I think you nailed it. People just can't seem to grasp the concept of "don't like it? don't involve yourself into it" Some folks just HAVE to give their oh so diligent opinion on any matter, which comes down to ego problems, as you mentioned yourself. A bigger problem is, social media makes people think that they're more than just another person on the planet, existing for no particular reason. This delusion of grandeur and importance can lead to the belief that one's opinions are always facts. You'll see quite a few people who are PAID TO COMPLAIN about things they don't participate in. Specifically video games. |
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Post by Dan E. Kool on Jan 22, 2016 22:51:37 GMT
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fsfsxii
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Post by fsfsxii on Jan 23, 2016 1:42:57 GMT
@mister xiado I think you nailed it. People just can't seem to grasp the concept of "don't like it? don't involve yourself into it" Some folks just HAVE to give their oh so diligent opinion on any matter, which comes down to ego problems, as you mentioned yourself. A bigger problem is, social media makes people think that they're more than just another person on the planet, existing for no particular reason. This delusion of grandeur and importance can lead to the belief that one's opinions are always facts. You'll see quite a few people who are PAID TO COMPLAIN about things they don't participate in. Specifically video games. You're right, the entitlement with some people is too strong sometimes. |
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Post by Mister Xiado on Jan 23, 2016 7:34:15 GMT
You're right, the entitlement with some people is too strong sometimes. You'll most often find that these people tend to have never suffered hunger, neglect, violent crime, homelessness, or anything else that might temper a person to grow stronger through hardship. |
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