Balder
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Post by Balder on May 10, 2018 12:55:14 GMT
When did I ever mention Iran? When the US is a member of UN's Security Council they should actually follow procedures made by the UN instead of following them when they decide stuff. It's very poor politics of them to do so, and it weakens the UN's resolve. The US never found anything that could be linked with weapons of mass destruction in Iraq despite waging war on those speculations. Even the guy who presented the speculation to UN has admitted he regretted ever doing it. This is why the US has become synonymous with being the world police, a shitty cop at that. It isn't the US's fault that ole Saddam was a poor poker player; he bluffed and lost. Plus, WMD was found just not the BIG FIND that everyone wanted. They UN is pretty much irrelevant especially when put the likes of Cuba, Congo, and Syria on the Human Rights Council. But you brought up Iraq when this started about a bad Iran deal, chief. I can understand you got them mixed up with all the Trump Winning. For the record I never mixed up Iran and Iraq. I never even mentioned Iran. I don't think Americans have any say in breaking Human Rights when they are an offender themselves, with Guantanamo Bay and shit. Also, the way you guys have treated Cuba over the years has been pretty bad.
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stratogustav
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Post by stratogustav on May 10, 2018 18:57:03 GMT
From my perspective Trump hasn't been bad as the media claims. He doesn't really do anything, and that's fine by me. Not doing anything bad is good in my book.
That said, it sucks he had to delay the Kennedy files release until 2021, something tells me he was threatened to death because he was about to give full disclosure. He said the FBI, CIA, and NSA stepped in to stop him.
My guess is because the people involved are still alive, the Bush family, Kissinger, and all those people in the Bilderberg group. I would also link Marilyn Monroe's death to this, Robert Kennedy's death, and Kennedy Junior's death in 1999.
Trump also promised that we'll finally visit the Moon and he even signed a bill to do so, but then NASA cancelled everything, we won't go, not even a rover. What a shitty thing, it really pisses me off. He promises some good things, and then everything goes to shit, it fucking sucks.
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on May 10, 2018 22:33:39 GMT
It isn't the US's fault that ole Saddam was a poor poker player; he bluffed and lost. Plus, WMD was found just not the BIG FIND that everyone wanted. They UN is pretty much irrelevant especially when put the likes of Cuba, Congo, and Syria on the Human Rights Council. But you brought up Iraq when this started about a bad Iran deal, chief. I can understand you got them mixed up with all the Trump Winning. For the record I never mixed up Iran and Iraq. I never even mentioned Iran. I don't think Americans have any say in breaking Human Rights when they are an offender themselves, with Guantanamo Bay and shit. Also, the way you guys have treated Cuba over the years has been pretty bad. While the embargo has its issues (not a fan myself), it is an American thing. EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD can/does trade with Cuba. They brought their misery on themselves (<waves> Hi Venezuela! <waves>).
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 11, 2018 1:47:10 GMT
For the record I never mixed up Iran and Iraq. I never even mentioned Iran. I don't think Americans have any say in breaking Human Rights when they are an offender themselves, with Guantanamo Bay and shit. Also, the way you guys have treated Cuba over the years has been pretty bad. While the embargo has its issues (not a fan myself), it is an American thing. EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD can/does trade with Cuba. They brought their misery on themselves (<waves> Hi Venezuela! <waves>). Good to hear that there are some Americans with some sense when it comes to Cuba. The problem with the US embargoing is that they hold a lot of sway over other nations. I may seem extremely critical towards US politics compared to other nations, but there's a reason. When a country with so much influence as the US makes decisions, it affects much more than just the US. I'm against modern NATO, and I think it should be disbanded. So when the US declares war, Norway gets dragged in with it. Also, it enforces us to expand our military spending. The US therefore should be held higher morally for its actions. As Uncle Ben said: With great powers, comes great responsibility.
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Spirit Bomb
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Post by Spirit Bomb on May 11, 2018 4:15:39 GMT
scipioafricanus If Trump keeps refusing to cooperate with Europe we might eventually lose their support in addition to making enemies with Iran. Do you really want that to happen to us?
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cobretti
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Post by cobretti on May 11, 2018 9:58:56 GMT
scipioafricanus If Trump keeps refusing to cooperate with Europe we might eventually lose their support in addition to making enemies with Iran. Do you really want that to happen to us? We will never lose the support of Europe. Ever. And Iran has always been our enemy.
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on May 11, 2018 10:43:37 GMT
scipioafricanus If Trump keeps refusing to cooperate with Europe we might eventually lose their support in addition to making enemies with Iran. Do you really want that to happen to us? We will never lose the support of Europe. Ever. And Iran has always been our enemy. cobretti wins for logic.
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scipioafricanus
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Post by scipioafricanus on May 11, 2018 10:53:57 GMT
While the embargo has its issues (not a fan myself), it is an American thing. EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD can/does trade with Cuba. They brought their misery on themselves (<waves> Hi Venezuela! <waves>). Good to hear that there are some Americans with some sense when it comes to Cuba. The problem with the US embargoing is that they hold a lot of sway over other nations. I may seem extremely critical towards US politics compared to other nations, but there's a reason. When a country with so much influence as the US makes decisions, it affects much more than just the US. I'm against modern NATO, and I think it should be disbanded. So when the US declares war, Norway gets dragged in with it. Also, it enforces us to expand our military spending. The US therefore should be held higher morally for its actions. As Uncle Ben said: With great powers, comes great responsibility. Europe (and Norway) might want to figure out how much they need to spend on defense without the peace dividend that the US provides. Might be more than 1.5% of GDP. Besides... someone is always watching... (might be my favorite gif to date)
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Balder
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Post by Balder on May 11, 2018 11:41:13 GMT
Good to hear that there are some Americans with some sense when it comes to Cuba. The problem with the US embargoing is that they hold a lot of sway over other nations. I may seem extremely critical towards US politics compared to other nations, but there's a reason. When a country with so much influence as the US makes decisions, it affects much more than just the US. I'm against modern NATO, and I think it should be disbanded. So when the US declares war, Norway gets dragged in with it. Also, it enforces us to expand our military spending. The US therefore should be held higher morally for its actions. As Uncle Ben said: With great powers, comes great responsibility. Europe (and Norway) might want to figure out how much they need to spend on defense without the peace dividend that the US provides. Might be more than 1.5% of GDP. Besides... someone is always watching... (might be my favorite gif to date) Norway should stay neutral and be a peaceful nation. It's a shame they're apart of NATO.
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