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Post by Dan E. Kool on Dec 8, 2017 18:15:31 GMT
Dewd... I'm still on the fence whether to get the new hardware just for Xenoblade 2... Her lingerie model isn't even in the game yet and I already equipped the armor breaking trait in her axe.
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Armored Core Raven
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Post by Armored Core Raven on Dec 8, 2017 20:59:29 GMT
lukefonfabre388 Tons of splitscreen games on PC because it has a vast library? Okay, fine, name but a few, say a small number like 50 splitscreen games for PC, I don't need a list of several hundreds to win me over, I'd appreciate if you listed way more but I feel 50 is a good humble beginning. I can easily name 50 off the top of my head for consoles any day, seeing as consoles have a vast library of games with about equal focus on splitscreen multiplayer as well as singleplayer over the decades, unlike PC which has always been predominantly about singleplayer as far as I know, with some games in the past offering LAN as the only alternative to multiplayer, until recent years where online modes have mostly killed off splitscreen multiplayer for console gaming as well, of course. In total I know Asterix Mega Madness (which was also on PlayStation so it's not even an exclusive), Liero and The Double Doom (sometimes referred to as Chakal 3D or Jackal 3D, which isn't that name of the game but the custom graphics engine it runs on) that have proper splitscreen gameplay on PC. Beside that I just know some fighting games that are shared screen multiplayer on PC, yet again mostly console ports though, like Eternal Champions, Street Fighter 2 and Toshinden 1 and 2 for example, there's also some turn based stuff but that's the opposite of realtime multiplayer so I won't count that, literally everything else I know on PC that has multiplayer options of any kind requires multiple PC setups and is only playable over LAN and/or internet.
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Dec 9, 2017 0:04:17 GMT
Armored Core Raven - You're right in that most PC games until 2007 or so were LAN or online multiplayer at best, but since then, there are A LOT of platformers and action splitscreen games - I say this because I play some of them with my wife, especially the Trine series, Lara Croft and... series, Spelunky, Portal 2, any arcade port (D&D Collection, Metal Slug etc.), racing games... You wanted 50? HERE'S A LIST OF 1557 LOCAL MULTIPLAYER GAMES JUST ON STEAM. Every genre is represented: action, platformer, rpg, fighting, puzzle... Besides, if we count emulation, then every splitscreen game on consoles up to the Wii is available on pc. I'd say splitscreen is not a problem at all on modern pc gaming, but I agree with you if we talk only about classic pc gaming and disconsider emulation.
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Armored Core Raven
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Post by Armored Core Raven on Dec 9, 2017 0:52:48 GMT
Cervantes Right, I keep not counting modern gaming on PC as it's all digital only yet still costs money, which is ludicrous to me, I have no problems downloading a digital game if it's 100% free without any registrations or subscriptions or payments etc., like Liero and The Double Doom are both homebrew games and I love them, both were and still are 100% free to download to this day, as it should be, but with Steam and such like the list you posted, it's not games I can go out and buy, so to me they might as well don't exist. I'm so used to filtering that kind of stuff out of my mind that I legitimately didn't factor them in at all earlier when I made my previous post, I take it so natural that unless it's a physical copy, it simply doesn't exist to me, and I forget there are other's who actually do count digital only stuff. But yeah, in that sense I get where you're coming from, counting digital and emulation does naturally open up for a lot more stuff, including games with splitscreen being playable on PC. So to clarify my question that I'm actually interested in, what are these tons of games on PC with proper split screen that aren't digital only modern stuff on Steam and similar services or emulated console games? Legit PC games only, physical releases only, that don't require any online stuff like Steam etc.?
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Post by Cervantes on Dec 9, 2017 3:13:39 GMT
Armored Core Raven - Yep, if you take out digital games, then we'll be talking about the pre-2007 or so period I was saying, and until then, splitscreen games were really rare on pc. If we are not counting digital, I think the exception nowadays are those "limited edition" physical releases of modern pc games, but besides they being few and far between, I don't know how many of them are for splitscreen games. Classic, physical pc games were mostly about LAN or online - but then one could use that to argue that "LAN/online games are rare/nonexistent in retro consoles, so the pc wins in multiplayer". It's mostly a matter of what kind of multiplayer you like the most. In the early 2000s, I had much more fun playing LAN matches than splitscreen, so I could say that the pc was a better choice for multiplayer games in my opinion.
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Dec 9, 2017 5:53:47 GMT
Armored Core Raven - You're right in that most PC games until 2007 or so were LAN or online multiplayer at best, but since then, there are A LOT of platformers and action splitscreen games - I say this because I play some of them with my wife, especially the Trine series, Lara Croft and... series, Spelunky, Portal 2, any arcade port (D&D Collection, Metal Slug etc.), racing games... You wanted 50? HERE'S A LIST OF 1557 LOCAL MULTIPLAYER GAMES JUST ON STEAM. Every genre is represented: action, platformer, rpg, fighting, puzzle... Besides, if we count emulation, then every splitscreen game on consoles up to the Wii is available on pc. I'd say splitscreen is not a problem at all on modern pc gaming, but I agree with you if we talk only about classic pc gaming and disconsider emulation. I'd just like to point out that when I posted my earlier comment I was thinking specifically of FPS games on PC, since the majority of AAA PC games are FPS. That's how its always been since the early 2000s. Also, games like Metal Slug technically aren't splitscreen when played locally. Out of those 1557 games though, I'm curious as to how many of them are FPS games with splitscreen support...
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Dec 11, 2017 9:03:42 GMT
Local multiplayer is pretty much dead nowadays. Everything is play online now. PC has lan mode and splitscreen for a ton of games more then you think because the PC library is so big and vast. Give me at least 2 examples of PC shooters with split-screen support (besides Portal 2, which Cervantes already pointed out). I'm dying to know.
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Dec 11, 2017 13:37:31 GMT
Spirit Bomb - The Serious Sam games, Call of Duty: Black Ops III, Resident Evil 6, Kane & Lynch: Dead Men, Unreal Tournament 3 (through a config tweak). Left 4 Dead 1/2, Borderlands 2 and Resident Evil 5 support it with mods.
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Post by stratogustav on Dec 11, 2017 20:48:58 GMT
I wish I had a 360. They had many exclusive Xbox Live arcade games I wish were on PS3 like:
- Space Invaders Extreme - Virtua Striker - Bomberman Live Battlefest - Bubble Bobble Neo! - Arkanoid Live! - Bangai-O HD Missile Fury - Ikagura - Radiant Silvergun - KOF Sky Stage - Contra - Super Contra - Paperboy - Double Dragon - Double Dragon II - Rush'n Attack - Dig Dug - Pac-Mam - Ms. Pac-Man - Galaga - Tron - Discs Of Tron - Centipede - Millipede - Defender - Frogger - Frogger 2 - Gyruss - Joust - Missile Command - Robotron 2084 - Scramble - Tempest - Time Pilot - Xevious - Yars' Revenge - KOF '98 Ultimate Match - KOF 2002 Unlimited Match - NeoGeo Battle Coliseum - New Rally-X - OutRun Online Arcade - RayStorm HD - Rez HD
We simply didn't get those on the PS3. Some we finally got on the PS4, but not all of them, and I really wish I had them on my PS3, so I could play them on my arcade cabinet.
Others I had to get them through the Japanese store, and others may be on the PS3 but only on physical form. Not to mention all the other amazing shmups that were exclusive to the 360.
They also had Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 Fate Of Two Worlds and Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 digitally, while on the PS3 I got stuck with the physical versions.
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Cervantes
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Post by Cervantes on Dec 11, 2017 21:15:09 GMT
Spirit Bomb - Others I've just found out: Resident Evil Revelations 2, Gears of War 4 and Turok 2. Edit: I've heard great things about the Serious Sam series, and all of them support splitscreen natively (no need for mods), so if you're looking for a good FPS to play with someone, any game in this series seems to be a good choice. On a side note, I didn't know Resident Evil games had splitscreen options (I had heard about 5, but didn't know about 6 or Revelations 2). There are more games, but these are the "bigger" ones. By the way, let me correct myself: searching for games on Steam marked as "Shared/Splitscreen", it actually gives me 4517 choices. That's... A lot.
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Post by Balder on Dec 11, 2017 23:42:37 GMT
Spirit Bomb - Others I've just found out: Resident Evil Revelations 2, Gears of War 4 and Turok 2. Edit: I've heard great things about the Serious Sam series, and all of them support splitscreen natively (no need for mods), so if you're looking for a good FPS to play with someone, any game in this series seems to be a good choice. On a side note, I didn't know Resident Evil games had splitscreen options (I had heard about 5, but didn't know about 6 or Revelations 2). There are more games, but these are the "bigger" ones. By the way, let me correct myself: searching for games on Steam marked as "Shared/Splitscreen", it actually gives me 4517 choices. That's... A lot. I'm impressed that Gears of War is splitscreen capable on PC. Steam on the other hand released over 6000 games filled with shit this year. So 4517 isn't quite as impressive.
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Post by Spirit Bomb on Dec 12, 2017 1:01:43 GMT
Spirit Bomb - Others I've just found out: Resident Evil Revelations 2, Gears of War 4 and Turok 2. Edit: I've heard great things about the Serious Sam series, and all of them support splitscreen natively (no need for mods), so if you're looking for a good FPS to play with someone, any game in this series seems to be a good choice. On a side note, I didn't know Resident Evil games had splitscreen options (I had heard about 5, but didn't know about 6 or Revelations 2). There are more games, but these are the "bigger" ones. By the way, let me correct myself: searching for games on Steam marked as "Shared/Splitscreen", it actually gives me 4517 choices. That's... A lot. Thanks for pointing those out to me. Coincidentally, I just remembered an indie PC game James Rolfe covered on his weekly let's play series with Mike Matie which had split-screen support, called Who's Your Daddy. Looks like a terrible game, but it's proof that there are indeed a number of indie titles on Steam that have split-screen. I'm not sure how difficult it is to program split-screen or how taxing it is on the hardware, but it's always garunteed to make a game better IMO.
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Post by Cervantes on Dec 13, 2017 22:55:45 GMT
Balder - Ah yes, most of them are definitely terrible, of course. Steam has no quality control nowadays. But still, there must be some great ones among those (like the games I mentioned before). Spirit Bomb - I think it's less about being taxing and more about being an extra thing to program (so it takes more time plus money to do). If it was possible to do 3d splitscreen on Saturn/PS1/N64 games, then it's not a hardware problem (you can always make the splitscreen mode have less graphical quality than the single player mode).
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Post by Balder on Dec 13, 2017 23:31:34 GMT
Balder - Ah yes, most of them are definitely terrible, of course. Steam has no quality control nowadays. But still, there must be some great ones among those (like the games I mentioned before). Spirit Bomb - I think it's less about being taxing and more about being an extra thing to program (so it takes more time plus money to do). If it was possible to do 3d splitscreen on Saturn/PS1/N64 games, then it's not a hardware problem (you can always make the splitscreen mode have less graphical quality than the single player mode). Steam's way of handling quality control just baffles me.
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